"Avatar" sequels in 2014 and 2015
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He's gonna have to do something very different with the sequels to make them worth seeing to me. I saw the first one and enjoyed the spectacle, but the story was just so mediocre. The sequels either need to make the FX even more spectacular (which would be difficult) or have an absolutely amazing story. Cameron has already done the awesome FX; he won't be able to rely on those as much this time around.
Amazing, ain't it?
Anyway, looks like this time Cameron's not going to give Hollywood twelve years to try to top him - four's more than enough to demonstrate that they can't.
These should be interesting at the very least...I enjoyed "Avatar" for what it was. The story as has been commented on a gazillion times already wasn't anything original or new but that wasn't the point of the movie. The point of the movie was to entertain people with a new mind blowing technology and hopefully an interesting story...even if it was adapted from other material, what movie nowadays doesn't or isn't influenced by something else?
I'm still confused about what the "Avatar" novel is supposed to be. He's stated so many different things, at first it was going to be a straight up adaption, then it was going to be a prequel, now it's going to be all of these things? I'm looking forward to it but wondering what it is actually going to be about. Apperently he's been working on it all year...it was originally thought to be out this Christmas but since he's given no time frame I'm thinking more likely next year sometime.
I'm still confused about what the "Avatar" novel is supposed to be. He's stated so many different things, at first it was going to be a straight up adaption, then it was going to be a prequel, now it's going to be all of these things? I'm looking forward to it but wondering what it is actually going to be about. Apperently he's been working on it all year...it was originally thought to be out this Christmas but since he's given no time frame I'm thinking more likely next year sometime.
I should add to my post that I think it will be an interesting creative challenge for Cameron to keep people's attention for these two films by continuing to tell an interesting story while using his 3D technology as the hook to tell it. Plus James Horner will be back to provide us with two more awesome, bombastic scores which I do look forward to.
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Every time I hear her name I think of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPwLSl_IWSI
"Eh, I am French-Canadian, I am really skinny, and guess what: I am the best singer in the world! Welcome to my show!"
Every time I hear her name I think of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPwLSl_IWSI
"Eh, I am French-Canadian, I am really skinny, and guess what: I am the best singer in the world! Welcome to my show!"
Dennis, which parts were well scripted, again? The cliche kill-em-all commander, the cliche corporate buffoon, the cliche Mighty Whitey gone native, the cliche good scientists, the cliche "Gaia" message, the cliche soldier who gets disgusted and defects, or the cliche "natives fight back against an overwhelming technological force and win"?
Dennis, which parts were well scripted, again? The cliche kill-em-all commander, the cliche corporate buffoon, the cliche Mighty Whitey gone native, the cliche good scientists, the cliche "Gaia" message, the cliche soldier who gets disgusted and defects, or the cliche "natives fight back against an overwhelming technological force and win"?
None of those points are criticisms of the scripting per se, it's already been acknowledged that the concept is not an original one, the scripting itself was pretty competent.
Exactly so. It's like criticizing Star Wars for being simpleminded. Not everyone likes the first Star Wars movie, but so the hell what?
I certainly hope the sequels continue to feature Saldana/Neytiri, but I don't suppose there's any reason they wouldn't.
I know this guy gets brought up too much around here, but I really thought RED LETTER MEDIA's Avatar review was far and away his best.
Actually, I found all the TNG and Star Trek one's funny.. but didn't really agree or endorse all his points.
Avatar review was right on the money.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJarz7BYnHA
Actually, I found all the TNG and Star Trek one's funny.. but didn't really agree or endorse all his points.
Avatar review was right on the money.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJarz7BYnHA
If they'll write their reviews down in something like competent English, I'll read them. Pass on the YouTube meanderings.
When will people learn the difference between an idea that isn't original and bad screenwriting? They're two completely different concepts. Then the whole "it sucks because it's a story that's been told before" idea. 
Yeesh...might as well eliminate all television, movies, popular books, music, philosophy...
Yeesh...might as well eliminate all television, movies, popular books, music, philosophy...Ah, come on, I hear that new series with the hot vampires on AMC is pretty good. Or is it Showtime? The CW? What the fuck.
The other funny thing, of course, is that people will watch a skiffy TV series go endlessly and tediously over the same ground for a decade or two - or four - and only become distressed or disillusioned when the people behind it try to change things up a little. I mean, how many episodes of Stargate are there, actually - as many as four?
The other funny thing, of course, is that people will watch a skiffy TV series go endlessly and tediously over the same ground for a decade or two - or four - and only become distressed or disillusioned when the people behind it try to change things up a little. I mean, how many episodes of Stargate are there, actually - as many as four?
Pretty much.
My only reservations come from what sort of new content the film will provide. The first Avatar was a straight up planetary romance: Here's your alien world, here's your alien race. Who needs two dozen of both, it's just a single movie.
Another movie could just expand on Pandora further (which I suppose is possible, although it's strongly implied that most of the planet is jungle) or go to other planets - such as the Earth we never saw, or other habitable worlds... in the latter case we may be crossing that thin line that probably only exists in my head between planetary romance and space opera.
...not that this really matters. But Avatar isn't a film which for me the direction of the sequels is immediately self-evident, while in say, Star Wars you figure with Darth Vader getting away you'll probably have to deal with his nonsense again. I suppose the human economic situation may simply demand they come back with bigger guns and better funding.
And yes, if you're lambasting Avatar for its lack of originality and you're a Star Wars fan, well... the original Star Wars is Hidden Fortress plus Flash Gordon plus fighter plane movies. In that sense Avatar is a lot like Star Wars: Some filmmaker returns to the pulp of his youth to spin out a visual effects slam dunk on the big screen.
Thing is, though. Avatar is a lot of cliches I really, really love. Exotic alien worlds, exotic alien races, big action setpieces - this is clearly the movie a ten-year old me would have made if given a lot of money and writing/directorial skills by a magic wand.