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Supernatural 6x2 "Two and a Half Men" spoiler/discussion thread

Dorian Thompson

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Episode two is tonight, good people. I hope we all enjoy it. I, for one, am glad to be here since I was nearly in a major accident on I-40 driving home. I'm still shaking like a leaf. :( Must hug puppy dog, pet kitty cat, and thank the maker for being alive. Very close call. Very close.
 
Yikes, glad you're okay Dorian. :eek:

Did your car get dinged up at all? Maybe you can take it to Bobby's to get it fixed. :techman:
 
Thanks, folks. :)

Man, something is seriously wrong with Samuel and company. Creepy, scary, and very disturbing. The coldness of how the cousins were presented in episode one was definitely intentional. Sure, me and Arlene will just adopt the little shifter. Christian is one bud short of a six pack. Color me intrigued, though. Just who was Samuel speaking with?

Poor Lisa. She's perfect for Dean, but she's kidding herself. Their new arrangement won't work.
 
Oh well the brief respite from mediocrity that was so pervasive in season 5 that I got a break in the last two episodes of S5 and the first one this year is over. Also SN has to be one of the most uneven shows I have ever watched fluctuating across the quality spectrum constantly. And I'm not talking just within the series itself but it can be so wildly uneven within the hour itself--like here.

This was just boring. Not bad just bland. You'd think with what appears to me as an increase in the budget allowing for its rock soundtrack, extras, on location shooting, and a new car for Sam that the writers would feel a little more inspired than such tiresome dreck as this.

It is no secret I am not a big fan when the show injects forced humor into their episodes so you know I hated the "Three Men and a Baby" type schtick.

I also had hoped the show would have gotten back to its roots of S1 where there was no big arc and the guys could get back to the basics of just hunting and we could put behind us all the emotional brotherly dysfunctional angst. But alas not. Instead we have more distrust and tension between the two like we have had for the last several years. Frankly it is tiresome especially when it seems like it isn't going any place particularly new or fresh.

Also I think recaps are important for seni-serialized shows but the use of it tonight ruined what little in the way of suspense the episode might have had in terms of who was taking the babies by showing clips of Shifters. As a result another rather pedestrian and unsatisfying supernatural plot. The only thing remotely interesting about this episode was the hints of Grandpa working for someone and collecting these supernatural beings and my curiosity about why. Other than that it felt again like S5 of the episode simply existing to seed for the future and not bothering to tell an interesting story in its own right.

Even the few character scenes were just okay--passable but nothing to write home about.

I give this one a C. They were throwing everything in the kitchen sink at us in this episode in an effort to pad out the hour and even still I thought it was slow and boring.
 
Man, something is seriously wrong with Samuel and company. Creepy, scary, and very disturbing. The coldness of how the cousins were presented in episode one was definitely intentional.

Yep. The only person who seems half normal is Dean. The rest of the Campbells (Sam, included) are just creepy.

It looks like Cass is coming back in the next episode, so maybe we can get some decent background info.
 
But there was an arc in season one. Find dad. Find what killed their mother. It wasn't all stand alone.
But it wasn't high stakes--finding dad. Frankly having to seed arc stuff in my opinion is making the writers lazy. I'd much rather they ditch the arc and focus on writing a solid even standalone because right now to me the episodes seem to exist to further whatever arc the season will have. As a result, the episodes for a while now have felt like a hodgepodge of a "little bit of this and a little bit of that" creating an unsatisfying unfocused choppy viewing experience.

Tonight we had some family drama at the Dean residence to start off with then a supernatural investigation, then a bit of comedy as they babysit then we have a family standoff and brotherly angst. It just felt too much was tackled and none of ot came off particularly well executed or developed.
 
Mileage varies, of course, but I'm intrigued. This doesn't feel like "high stakes end of the world" stuff. It feels like deep troubles within this family with some outside danger guiding the action. I want to know what's up with the very strange Campbells. I love Sam when he's being a douchebag. I know, I know, but I do. Padalecki's better when Sam's falling down that slippery cold slope.
 
so.... was that the big bad this season they have to deal with.... the shapeshifter king with his minions and his diabolical plans?
 
I liked it. The shift between material worked for me. The humor wasn't over the top, it was in periods that Sam & Dean aren't expecting trouble and that felt very right.

I really enjoyed the focus on Dean's life. And I thought Jensen did a solid job here. The two best of those scenes are his confrontation of Ben and the final scenes with Lisa. But really all Dean's home scenes felt true to the character of Dean.

I liked the grocery store scenes, starting with the light banter (which felt like me and my brother the first time we watched a baby), the only slight quibble I had with this scene is that we don't see either brother try and hold the child, and even a novice knows to try that. Every thing else matched up to my own personal experiences as being completely inexperienced with very young children (heck my brother and I were teased about being a couple the first time we went out with his kid). I also liked the fact that at first the people were more agains the women stealing the kid, but once the scene shifted towards Dean with a women and a weapon how the other person automatically assumed the women to be the victim.

As for the Cambell's the only part that I don't get is Sam's reaction to them. Is open acceptance of them is strange. One you would think after being lied to by both Angels and Demons, having other hunters hunt him, ect that Sam would be a little less trusting of pretty much everyone.I can understand Sam cutting himself off from his emotions (very believable), but I don't see any reason why he would trust these people. Certainly after Ruby and the Angels he should now that he can't judge someone by their behaviors or by his expectations of what behaviors a group should have. Thats really the only part of this episode that had me going, that makes no sense whatsoever.

The opening teaser was also surprisingly void of suspense. THough I have said that multiple times when children are part of a scene Supernatural really down plays the actually violence not to mention the atmosphere (really the only exceptions to this have been Azazel and Sam and other kid, and the Shtriga (or however you spell it).

And as Startrekwatcher mentioned they seriously need to stop laying everything out in the "previously on" segment. This isn't something that new to the show, in fact it does go back to the first season, but still. You can always tell what creature is the bad guy by the opener. And seriously stop it.

I will say I actually didn't expect the creature to be mating with humans. We haven't had much of that on SN with any form of creature (the only thing I can think of was the Anitchrist, I actually can't think of another of the top of my head).

And of course we are going to get some car porn with Dean starting back up. Of which I am all for. We may rarely see them sex up Jensen and Jared, but the Impala is another story.

A few major/ minor quibbles/ questions.

Where is the colt? It can kill (if aimed at a kill shot, nearly everything). They still have it last I saw, and it appears that Ruby showed them how to make rounds for it, so.....

2nd where is Ruby's knife? And can it kill anything besides demons (I mean obviously it can kill anything a normal knife would), but have we ever scene it used on anything besides a Demon, An Angel, or a human?

Certainly the colt needs to be addressed.

Oh, this one's a B.
 
Like Fringe this season, the second episode was way better than the season premiere.

The episode this week was good and funny, which season premier wasn't. Dean babysitting was very amusing. I did like that all this turned out to be some kind of plan by Samuel, using the baby as bait, to capture the Alpha shapeshifter. It looks like Samuel is trying to capture monsters for some reason. Maybe this season will end up being Dean and Sam against Samuel? Hunter vs Hunter. That'll be pretty cool.

It was interesting learning about how shapeshifters go about creating more of their kind. The baby being one was really nice twist. The big monster getting away at the end surprised me. It reminded me of all those episodes when the monster got away on the X-Files.

Next week, Cas! Awesome!
 
Didn't think it was a great episode, but good enough. Though "they have to take care of a baby" is right up there with "The boxing episode" for episode ideas when a show is running out of steam.
Some how I think Samuel is working for Cas, and they're trying to set some things right in a post apocalyptic world. I'm also not convinced Sam doesn't know what's going on.
 
I don't know why, but I got the distinct impression that Samuel was on the phone with Crowley, who wants to build up an army of his own now that there's got to be a struggle for power in Hell (and Heaven for that matter). Since demons won't trust him anymore, he's got to look elsewhere. Why not these "alphas?"

As to why Samuel would be working with him, Crowley's a Crossroad Demon, so he has the power to do just about anything, including snatching a soul back from Heaven if a deal is struck. The question is what would Samuel have agreed to in order to leave Heaven and condemn himself to Hell?

(Course, if he's like Sam and Dean, he probably couldn't stand Heaven either. So it may not be that big of a deal.)

That also explains how Sam got out, too. I wouldn't be surprised if we get a flashback of Crowley making a deal with him before he went in to confront (and lose to) Lucifer. Would explain why Sam was so cavalier about the whole thing; he had an ace in his pocket.

I dunno. Just a random impression I got from this episode. Other than the theorycrafting, I have to say I was glad to see the last scene of the episode. Made it feel like Supernatural again.
 
Episode two is tonight, good people. I hope we all enjoy it. I, for one, am glad to be here since I was nearly in a major accident on I-40 driving home. I'm still shaking like a leaf. :( Must hug puppy dog, pet kitty cat, and thank the maker for being alive. Very close call. Very close.
Wow, I'm very glad to hear that you're okay. :eek:
 
Thanks, RJ. I dreamed about it last night and woke up with a jolt at about 6 am. I know I'll calm down about it in a few days, but knowing that there was no way I'd have survived if that semi had hit me...it makes you think. I had to swerve to avoid this drunk who was weaving, who I was trying to get around because he made me nervous, and he all of a sudden lurched into my lane and I had to swerve into the far right lane at the exchange and the semi was coming off the entrance ramp. How we avoided a major pile up I don't know. It's scary to think about. Two policemen saw what happened; one of them followed me off the next exit ramp and found me crying in a 7-11 parking lot. He followed me home to make sure I arrived safely. The other one was chasing the drunk, I assume. Apparently other drivers had seen him swerving and called the highway patrol.

Makes you think.

I'm also not convinced Sam doesn't know what's going on.

Oh, I think he does. He definitely does. Sam's increasing coldness is the subject of much debate elsewhere. It's not out of character, though. Jessica was the period of reprieve in Sam's life. Once she was gone, Sam began to change. Losing Dean to hell and being exposed to Ruby pushed him completely over the edge.
 
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