And in houses of worship (churches, synagogues, mosques, etc.), I would hope.
French lawmakers Approve Full Veil Ban
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And in houses of worship (churches, synagogues, mosques, etc.), I would hope.
Angela 0077
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http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/newshome/7614367/spanish-parliament-rejects-ban-on-veils/
Okay the spanish have decided to reject a ban on veils revealing the eyes.
Okay the spanish have decided to reject a ban on veils revealing the eyes.
Why can't you wear sweats/sneakers in a store or blue jeans ... whenever?
There was no law saying I couldn't. It just didn't fit in with the culture at the time. If I didn't make an attempt to at least understand and respect the culture I was living in then my only friends would have been other Americans - not the worst thing in the world but not why I moved over there.
What a stupid thing for such an intelligent man to say. I want to cry for you.
A man of your caliber would liken the bondage of women to a simple matter of clothing.
Have you lost all perspective?
There's a lot of hysteria about religious icons which don't rob the wearer of their identity. They are red herrings. Carrie doesn't help by not differentiating between these two things. As to French being out on their own: this debate is rumbling through Europe but if you want the trailblazers it's Turkey.
^^ Not at all. Plenty of countries ban fashion arbitrarily. Iran just banned the mullet. Maybe France should look into that as well. 
I've not lost any perspective. What a few people don't seem to grasp is that this is not about the bondage of women-- it's about the freedom of women to wear what they want. It's irrelevant whether you want to call it a symbol of bondage. If they want to dress that way, they have the right.
Well played, sir, well played!
A lot of people that move to a different land adopt parts of the culture to fit in. It makes perfect sense. However that isn't the debate.
The debate is that it should never ever be a law in any country that you have to wear something or can't wear something that is native to your culture. That's what France has done. Not just with the face veil but with the ban on girls in schools wearing headscarves a few years back.
Sorry, I'm being too communist here
You're too superficial if you treat the problem this way.
All religious symbols are banned at school, not only headscarves.
I think you're missing my point. By wearing the veil these immigrants weren't making an attempt to fit into the culture they had chosen to move into. Having the government step in may seem strange to an American but in a socialist country that is very protective of its heritage and culture the move seems more natural.
Skirts, pants, heels, etc.
Ok. I'm not French.
This is bullshit, we wear jeans, sweats and sneakers...but not only that and not always.
You solve bondage of women by banning a piece of clothing? That's optimism for you.
All you do is make it more insidious. Which does not assist in tackling it.
I wonder how many people here who agree with the blanket ban on veils to stop oppression believe in the blanket ban of alcohol to stop disorder?
Where the full veil is used as an object of true oppression by males, do you really think they'll be going out in public much once it's banned?
Hypothetically, in a public school, what if a girl is wearing a headscarves in a "non-religious" way? Don't girls/women in France just wear them sometimes?