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A Website That Treats Fan Films Seriously.

First off, sorry to hear about what you're going through.

On the site, I agree with the above about the side-bar. If people saw a menu of some form instantly, they'd have an easier time working it out.

I may explain this terribly so apologies in advance...

Say;
-News; Link to the front page so it'd direct to the latest stuff
-Categories; directs to a blog where with the contents
-Websites; List of sites you want to plug.

And so on. I can't remember how that site works, but I helped someone with a similar problem and was able to do just that (and I found it!): http://stkenneths.blogspot.com/
 
First off, sorry to hear about what you're going through.

On the site, I agree with the above about the side-bar. If people saw a menu of some form instantly, they'd have an easier time working it out.

I may explain this terribly so apologies in advance...

Say;
-News; Link to the front page so it'd direct to the latest stuff
-Categories; directs to a blog where with the contents
-Websites; List of sites you want to plug.

And so on. I can't remember how that site works, but I helped someone with a similar problem and was able to do just that (and I found it!): http://stkenneths.blogspot.com/

This sounds a lot like my top three blogs. The News is aimed at people who are using my website as a shortcut for monitoring all the BBs and Facebook and the like for new releases and updates on major fan films available for viewing. The Quick Pick Treasures are aimed at those new to Fan Films to whom I want to point to a few of the very best Fan Films. And then there's the Table of Contents. Unfortunately, the blog formatting, as far as I can tell, doesn't allow me to put them into three columns. I can play with it and may be able to get one of them on the sidebar (the Quick Pick Treasures or the Table of Contents). The News isn't always there. It happens there was a lot of news from mid-August until mid-September, but absent me finding another major fan film (not impossible) or somebody either releasing and English Language version (subtitles or dubs) or a new English language film, the Queue can become empty. Then all there are are Quick Pick Treasures and then the Table of Contents.

I removed a lot of the verbage under the title, and some from the news section. I'm not sure I can use HTML links to the top three blogs from there. I can play with it and see if it works. I see that you did it in that blog you set up on the sidebar. I'll see if I can do that.
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I think I did it. What do you think?
 
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I have added links to the sidebar using a 'gaget'. The links are to the Table of Contents, Quick Picks, Index, and Star Trek Names Not Associated with Star Trek Films. I might also add links to the list of Major Fan Films and the list of Parodies without making the "Where to Start" list too long. I don't think I want the entire Table of Contents there, though. Feedback?
 
I have added links to the sidebar using a 'gaget'. The links are to the Table of Contents, Quick Picks, Index, and Star Trek Names Not Associated with Star Trek Films. I might also add links to the list of Major Fan Films and the list of Parodies without making the "Where to Start" list too long. I don't think I want the entire Table of Contents there, though. Feedback?

Vast improvement! This is much easier to navigate now. I like the "Where to start" bit because it pulls my attention to the breadth of contest on the blog without being too confusing. Nice work.
 
The improvements are thanks to the great feedback I'm getting. I want to make the website useful, or what's the point? So, thank you for your useful comments and complaints, everyone!!

More ideas about how to improve the website, of course, are welcome. I'm sure I'll want to completely reorganize it in a better way at some time. Part of that, though, is knowing where I'm going. Right now, it's baby steps!
 
I wanted to thank you folk for the useful comments which resulted in the small set of 'getting started' links on my website. In the days since I installed those links, the tracking devices I have on the website show that I am getting more repeat traffic (or a weird series of coincidences in which people from one city suddenly come repeated in over a day or two who never visited it before... unlikely). The website, of course, has a lot of information useful to the Fan Film Fan. Even as it was, it was clearly a lot easier to make your way around my website in search of a fan film you hadn't previously viewed than around the whole world wide web. However, now it may be getting to the point where I may START doing what I hoped the website would eventually do... promoting watching Star Trek fan films by making it easy enough to attract the Star Trek liker rather than only the Star Trek lover.

I'm sure there are many other improvements I could make. I may not be able to make them immediately, even if your suggestion is excellent. If you make a suggestion and I cannot respond immediately, please understand that that may be my technical limitations not a negative response to your suggestion. However, if I am given a choice between silence and a useful but nasty comment, I'd rather have the useful but nasty comment. I'm a grown up. Not that a useful comment which is not nasty would not be better than one that is, but if you have an opinion and can't express yourself in a polite way, I hope you'll express yourself anyway.
 
I wanted to note a few more improvements:
1) Pictures
2) A new section which lists videotaped or filmed theatrical Trek productions, blog 141.
3) I'm starting to link my list of pro Trek to places on the web you can watch the entire episode, preferably in high definition.
 
More Fan Films Added.

A live action series out of Wales, UK Star Trek: The First Missions about the Enterprise under Captain Pike,

New Episodes of Star Trek: Dark Armada and of the U.S.S. Angeles, both live action.

A website with over 20 animators Go!Animate and PubToons with it's own Star Trek Channel

Star Trek: A Final Unity, consisting of six machinima episodes of TNG each 45 minutes to an hour long

and many shorts, parodies, new German Language Fan Film, Star Trek: Starfire Status Q (54 minutes).

I can't watch 'em as fast as I find and list 'em... just click on my signatures and get your Trek needs met...
 
This looks very promising. Thanks for a nice site, I hope to get some more time to look throught it better.
 
I use Blogspot for my own 'Blogsite' The House of L'Stok which is, in fact a series of four (five if you include Acrux Content) Blogspot accounts connected by 'tabs' to look like a website...

The major difference between your Blog and the way that they are normally used is that...

  • The normal blog is organised chronalogically where the page that you see when you enter the Blogs URL is the accumulated posts for that month. Past months (and years in slow moving Blogs!) can be accessed using the Blog Archive which is a standard inclusion in the Blog's sidebar. Think of it as a "Book" (the blog) where the "chapters" (months) are made made up of "pages" (entries), other chapters are accessed from the "Table of Contents" (the Blog Archive)
  • Your blog is organised by categories and the page that you see from your URL, in a way your home or index page, shows every post that you have done. Using the above analogy, your blog is like a "scroll" where the "chapters" and "pages", the sections and entries, are all there on the front page if you scroll down far enough.
There's nothing intrinsically wrong with what you are trying to do. In a way, it is very much like a book with it's frontispiece, introduction, table of contents etc followed by sections and chapters.

In fact...:shifty:

You could easily reformat the html of you blog, put page breaks in at the section and chapter points and turn it into a pdf eBook complete with hyperlinks. That would look pretty cool on Issuu!;)

Your challenge, as you have said yourself, is to make it as easy as possible for your users to access the material you have amassed. To stretch our book analogy to its elastic limits (I am on the Grammar police's 'Ten Most Wanted' list!) the way this is done in publishing is in two ways: a table of contents and an index.

Now, you have a Table of Contents already, but is not immediately visible to your new visitor, in fact it is seven screens down the page. To counter this I can see that you have put a hyperlink to it directly under the title block, however it does not immediately catch your attention. I would suggest three options...

  • Make your five options into one or two words spaced out along a single line under the title in large narrow bold font (Arial Narrow, Bold, 18?) like THIS or THIS...
* Contents * Quick Picks * Productions * Index * Audio, Games, Comics, Prose...
  • Do the same thing as a vertical list in the sidebar but make the font broad (Impact, 18?) like THIS (yes, I know its Flash but it looks pretty!)...
Contents *
Quick Picks *
Productions *
Index *
Audio, Games, Comics, Prose *

  • Put the Index you have in Blog 2 directly into the top of your sidebar, thus...
    • on Blogspot go to Customize then under "Posting" pick out "Blog 2", click "edit" which should open it for editing (I believe you know how to do this). Click on the "Edit Html" tab and copy the whole of the post (put it on notepad just to be safe)
    • Now click on the "Layout" tab under "page elements" click on "Add a Gadget" (something else you appear to have mastered). This should open a popup where you choose "Text" and in the "Configure Text" box put "Table of Contents" in the Title box then hit the "Edit Html" button and enter the Html from Blog 2 and hit the save button.
    • You should find that this will have put the contents of Blog 2 into a text box at the top of your right hand side bar.
I mentioned earlier that the other way that you could simulate a book would be to have an index. This is done on a Blog by using "Labels". They are basically just bookmarks, just the same as you would use in a word processor, that are used as the individual entries to make up an index. What you do is to apply labels to a blog that define it best, in the "edit Posts" section of your Blog control panel, and these are then collated for future searching and indexing.

Have a look at my "Acrux Content" Blog HERE, and at the bottom of the right hand sidebar you will see a section marked "Labels". What I have done has been to "Label" each of my posts with either a general label such as "Fan Productions" or a specific one for each production, eg. "ST-Fa" which is an abbreviation for Starship Farragut.

It would be a pretty mammoth job, but if you went through your Blogs and added a label for each production or even, to start off with, the major sections such as Golden age etc, you could have an index that would cover your site in your sidebar.

>Phew< I'm all suggested out for tonight! I hope that was what you were looking for. It reminds me that I should really do something to spruce up the House of L'Stok, its looking pretty dowdy these days!

Your website deserves to succeed if not from the immense amount of work that you have obviously put into it, then because of the immeasurable service that it gives to newcomers and devotees of Trek fan productions alike in pointing us to something new all the time.

Thank you

Kirok of L'Stok

------------------------- Qapla' Balth je' -------------------------
------------------------ Honour and success ------------------------
 
Thank you for your useful criticism. I originally did have my links short (and I do have an index, it's next to last before the listing which I decided to limit to Audio, games, prose, and comics (the reason for the awkward title originally was that I didn't have a clue what I was doing). The problem was it wasn't clear why you might want to go to the limited listing of Major Fan Films, vrs. the Table of Contents or the Index. The Table of Contents doesn't tell you if ST: Aurora is live action or animation, or that Borg War is Machinima. While the detailed listing of major films gives you a wee bit of information.

Anyway, I'm alway very appreciative of good criticism. The blog has limitations, including not taking HTML code in that box where I have those links to the Index, etc.

I have tried breaking up the website so it doesn't all load from the top, but the advantage of the current form this that you can scan down the photos and see what attracts you. If all I load in the top six entries, your only way in is blind, or the little description in the Major Fan Film listing. Some individual webpages where I've completed my criticism now have a break before the spoilers start if you don' t load just that page.

I know I got on your wrong side when I started this, but I do ask your understanding that on May 10, 2009, I didn't know what a fan film was, nor did I know audio Trek existed. Creating this blog was an education for me.

More knowledgeable people have made listings, but their disadvantage is that they think they know stuff, and the world keeps changing. You have no idea how many e-mails I've gotten from different people in different nations telling me they consider themselves THE leading authority on Fan Films and I had some they had never seen. That happened because I didn't know enough to think I now had them all. So, ignorance in this case lead to knowledge. In fact, I just got another set of three full-length German fan films from an expert in Great Britain. Getting such tips has become very rare, and is always welcome. These films are not currently available on the web, but may be available for purchase second-hand on media like VHS.

Anyway, I'll be boiling through your thoughts over the next few weeks. Thank you.
 
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Just wanted to note that The Metrensky Incident, a Czech fan film with English and Spanish subtitles (and with Portuguese subtitles available separately at a Portuguese Star Trek website) has just become the first non-English language Fan Film listed as a Quick Pick Treasure.
 
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