To many here, the Abramsprise sucks, but the Enterprise-E is acceptable????
Please, help me with this.
Please, help me with this.
Umm... ship design question-
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Point is, the Enterprise-E is a gorram travesty, yet peeps here accept it!!
Not every peep...
I think it's a horrible mismash of the Excelsior, Intrepid and Constitution-refit classes. The single worse design of all major Starfleet vessels.
THANK YOU!!
TOS Enterprise - A
TMP-TWOK Enterprise - A
TVH-TUC Enterprise - B (I hate the interior)
TNG Enterprise - B (used to hate it, but it's grown on me)
DS9 Defiant - A (convincingly different Starfleet design)
VOY Voyager - F (ungainly and simply runt ugly)
GEN Enterprise B - D (an ungainly design made even uglier)
TNG "Yesterday's Enterprise" Enterprise C - C (unremarkable)
FC-NEM Enterprise E - C (unremarkable fanboy wet dream)
ENT Enterprise - C (not horrible, but not convincing as a century pre TOS)
ST09 Enterprise - F (should be called 1701F for "fucked up" Enterprise)
TMP-TWOK Enterprise - A
TVH-TUC Enterprise - B (I hate the interior)
TNG Enterprise - B (used to hate it, but it's grown on me)
DS9 Defiant - A (convincingly different Starfleet design)
VOY Voyager - F (ungainly and simply runt ugly)
GEN Enterprise B - D (an ungainly design made even uglier)
TNG "Yesterday's Enterprise" Enterprise C - C (unremarkable)
FC-NEM Enterprise E - C (unremarkable fanboy wet dream)
ENT Enterprise - C (not horrible, but not convincing as a century pre TOS)
ST09 Enterprise - F (should be called 1701F for "fucked up" Enterprise)
*BIAS ALERT- BIAS ALERT!*
With the exception of the Defiant all the designs are variations/interpretations of the original concept. And even the Defiant has nacelles and a saucer only they're closely integrated together. The NX-01 has the support hull essentially amputated.
The Abramsprise could have pulled off something cool even if the rest of the film remains crap. For me that's the essential case with Star Wars where I don't think much of the films themselves while still admiring some of the hardware.
The Abramsprise could have pulled off something cool even if the rest of the film remains crap. For me that's the essential case with Star Wars where I don't think much of the films themselves while still admiring some of the hardware.
Yeah, what's with all those people having personal opinions. The nerve, I say.To many here, the Abramsprise sucks, but the Enterprise-E is acceptable????
Please, help me with this.
Silly silly British man.
I'm Canadian.
Don't you believe that for a second. A lot of the complaints about the nuEnterprise are tied into complaints about Star Trek XI itself, but the Enterprise-E received a fair amount of criticism too when it first came out and more with each subsequent film it appeared in.To many here, the Abramsprise sucks, but the Enterprise-E is acceptable????
Please, help me with this.
But as with pretty much every starship that has borne the name Enterprise onscreen, the Enterprise-E was ultimately designed by committee with the producers eventually having the final say. Along the way, multiple versions of the ship were considered and then abandoned for various reasons.
http://www.starshipdatalink.net/art/images/dee-3.gif
To many here, the Abramsprise sucks, but the Enterprise-E is acceptable????
Please, help me with this.
It's simple. The Enterprise E is like a well-sculpted statue and simply looks beutiful.
The Abramsprise on the other hand took one of the best starship designs in all sci-fi and turned it into an ugly mess with the worst nacelles ever. Just plain horrible.
Are we talking about the same ship? The Enterprise-E looks like it belongs in a Japanese cartoon. It's way overdesigned -- too busy and fussy. And its profile view is too damn FLAT.
And the Abramsprise is even uglier.
In my humble opinion, of course.
The Enterprise E has always been a controversial design and though I like it, I do understand the ciriticisms leveled against it. But I truly feel there is a unique elegance to it that makes it a picturesque beauty. You can pose that ship next to a nebula or funky space anomaly and be awestruck by it.
The Abramsprise is just crap. I mean seriously, they started with a work of art, a da Vinci masterpiece if you will, and turned into the kind of crap a five year-old scribbles on paper and sympathetic parents post to the fridge in an attempt to boost the kid's self-esteem.
The Abramsprise is just crap. I mean seriously, they started with a work of art, a da Vinci masterpiece if you will, and turned into the kind of crap a five year-old scribbles on paper and sympathetic parents post to the fridge in an attempt to boost the kid's self-esteem.
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Don't you believe that for a second. A lot of the complaints about the nuEnterprise are tied into complaints about Star Trek XI itself, but the Enterprise-E received a fair amount of criticism too when it first came out and more with each subsequent film it appeared in.To many here, the Abramsprise sucks, but the Enterprise-E is acceptable????
Please, help me with this.
But as with pretty much every starship that has borne the name Enterprise onscreen, the Enterprise-E was ultimately designed by committee with the producers eventually having the final say. Along the way, multiple versions of the ship were considered and then abandoned for various reasons.
http://www.starshipdatalink.net/art/images/dee-3.gif
The image in that link is the one Rick Sternbach drew Thanksgiving turkey booties on.
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Constitution Class - Star Trek: The Original Series
Galaxy Class - Star Trek: The Next Generation
Ambassador Class - Star Trek: The Next Generation
B
NX Class - Star Trek: Enterprise
Excelsior Class - Star Trek III
Constitution Class refit - Star Trek: The Motion Picture
C
Defiant Class - Star Trek: Deep Space Nine
Nebula Class - Star Trek: The Next Generation
D
Oberth Class - Star Trek III
Intrepid Class - Star Trek: Voyager
F
Sovereign Class - Star Trek: First Contact
Constitution Class - Star Trek 2009
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I never saw that drawing.Don't you believe that for a second. A lot of the complaints about the nuEnterprise are tied into complaints about Star Trek XI itself, but the Enterprise-E received a fair amount of criticism too when it first came out and more with each subsequent film it appeared in.To many here, the Abramsprise sucks, but the Enterprise-E is acceptable????
Please, help me with this.
But as with pretty much every starship that has borne the name Enterprise onscreen, the Enterprise-E was ultimately designed by committee with the producers eventually having the final say. Along the way, multiple versions of the ship were considered and then abandoned for various reasons.
http://www.starshipdatalink.net/art/images/dee-3.gif
The image in that link is the one Rick Sternbach drew Thanksgiving turkey booties on.
But I do recall that they continued to play around after this design and bring the nacelles and pylons steadily forward and closer until Herman Zimmerman finally looked at it and referred to it as "a big turkey in a pan" and the decision was made to elongate things instead...
http://www.starshipdatalink.net/art/images/dee-5.jpg
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