Do you support Arizona?

[gturner]

Actually if Arizona cut off LA's power the subsequent looting and riots would keep city officials from being able to form any kind of response.

Also, sending a bunch of Mexican thugs into Arizona to shoot people would just make forty-eight other states follow Arizona's lead.

Perhaps Arizona should have a few tanker spills close rail and road traffic between Southern California and the rest of the United States. They can take forever to clean up and you can never be to careful about the health of the cleanup crews.

Perhaps at some point in this pissing match someone will bring up the interstate commerce clause.

 

[Tawny18]

Actually if Arizona cut off LA's power the subsequent looting and riots would keep city officials from being able to form any kind of response.

Also, sending a bunch of Mexican thugs into Arizona to shoot people would just make forty-eight other states follow Arizona's lead.

Perhaps Arizona should have a few tanker spills close rail and road traffic between Southern California and the rest of the United States. They can take forever to clean up and you can never be to careful about the health of the cleanup crews.

Perhaps at some point in this pissing match someone will bring up the interstate commerce clause.

MS-13 Is NOT a Mexican Gang it's a Salvadoran gang theyre from El Salvador a small country located in Central-America just shows how much you know idiot

 

[RJDiogenes]

MS-13 Is NOT a Mexican Gang it's a Salvadoran gang theyre from El Salvador a small country located in Central-America just shows how much you know idiot

This is Flaming, and is not allowed here. Flaming, and other infractions, can get you Warnings, and Warnings can result in a Ban. I'm going to let this one pass because you're a newcomer here, but I suggest you read the Board rules. Thank you.

 

[pookha]

In your opinion. We could find many people on both sides that say that AZ is a shit hole and who would say that CA is is the shit hole.

I never said it wasn't anything but my opinion. I think Ohio sucks too, and I'm from there.

The difference here is you're getting annoyed by the fact that I'm calling Arizona a shithole while I really could care less what you -- or anyone else -- thinks of California.

I answered this in the "other" thread, but I'll summarize here: I'll go with Tact for $500, Alex. Arizona managed to annoy a lot of people who bring money into the state with this act. Right in the middle of a struggling economy too. Good job, guys.

I live in Florida, why would I get upset with or care about AZ being called a shit hole. On the other hand I am interested in what you consider to be qualifications for a state to reach "shit hole" status. Your posts indicated that it was this law that elevated AZ to that unique status. Now it appears that CA also meets the criteria. I'm just interested as to why one would be a shit hold and not the other.

So it looks like your position is that its A.O.K for CA to pass the same laws, but since they did it at a different time AZ is now magically different. As for people who bring money into the state, with less illegals you will now have job opportunities for those who are jobless at better rates of pay. Add to that the penalties for companies that hire illeglas and it will be at worst a wash and more likely result in money in the hands of legal aliens and citizens alike.

Oh and speaking about money there is this too:

Dear Mayor Villaraigosa,

I was dismayed to learn that the Los Angeles City Council voted to boycott Arizona and Arizona-based companies — a vote you strongly supported — to show opposition to SB 1070 (Support our Law Enforcement and Safe Neighborhoods Act).

You explained your support of the boycott as follows: “While we recognize that as neighbors, we share resources and ties with the State of Arizona that may be difficult to sever, our goal is not to hurt the local economy of Los Angeles, but to impact the economy of Arizona. Our intent is to use our dollars — or the withholding of our dollars — to send a message.” (emphasis added)

I received your message; please receive mine. As a state-wide elected member of the Arizona Corporation Commission overseeing Arizona’s electric and water utilities, I too am keenly aware of the “resources and ties” we share with the City of Los Angeles. In fact, approximately twenty-five percent of the electricity consumed in Los Angeles is generated by power plants in Arizona.

If an economic boycott is truly what you desire, I will be happy to encourage Arizona utilities to renegotiate your power agreements so Los Angeles no longer receives any power from Arizona-based generation. I am confident that Arizona’s utilities would be happy to take those electrons off your hands. If, however, you find that the City Council lacks the strength of its convictions to turn off the lights in Los Angeles and boycott Arizona power, please reconsider the wisdom of attempting to harm Arizona’s economy.

People of goodwill can disagree over the merits of SB 1070. A state-wide economic boycott of Arizona is not a message sent in goodwill.

Sincerely,

Commissioner Gary Pierce

LINK Wow. If LA really wants to remain true to their principles then I guess they only have one choice.

i just finished an article that said los angles has the option of buying more power elsewhere.
but arizona would be hurt more by losing them as a client.

 

[Captain Ice]

^And I've just finished listening to an interview that has that the other way around. We will be able to sell the power to other places with no problem. On the other hand, LA is buying power at a discounted rate and will have to pay market price to get it anywhere else.

 

[Tawny18]

Ha! Seems like Arizona really depends on L.A! California is a much better state anyways what does Arizona have? Hmm nothing interesting! California has beaches, mountains, deserts, hollywood, woods pretty much everything youre looking for.

 

[Tawny18]

^And I've just finished listening to an interview that has that the other way around. We will be able to sell the power to other places with no problem. On the other hand, LA is buying power at a discounted rate and will have to pay market price to get it anywhere else.

Arizona depends more on California more than California depends on Arizona

 

[Captain Ice]

Ha! Seems like Arizona really depends on L.A! California is a much better state anyways what does Arizona have? Hmm nothing interesting! California has beaches, mountains, deserts, hollywood, woods pretty much everything youre looking for.

Mountains, deserts, forests, Grand Canyon, botanical gardens, one of the best zoos in the United States, etc, etc, etc. And it costs a hell of a lot less to do it here than it does in California.

Oh, and don't forget no smog and virtually no traffic.

 

[marillion]

Ha! Seems like Arizona really depends on L.A! California is a much better state anyways what does Arizona have? Hmm nothing interesting! California has beaches, mountains, deserts, hollywood, woods pretty much everything youre looking for.

Mountains, deserts, forests, Grand Canyon, botanical gardens, one of the best zoos in the United States, etc, etc, etc. And it costs a hell of a lot less to do it here than it does in California.

Oh, and don't forget no smog and virtually no traffic.

Five words... Late For The Train Coffee - Flagstaff

Ok.. six words...

I love Arizona. Next to New Mexico and Colorado, it's a close tie for third with Maine...

 

[Tawny18]

Ha! Seems like Arizona really depends on L.A! California is a much better state anyways what does Arizona have? Hmm nothing interesting! California has beaches, mountains, deserts, hollywood, woods pretty much everything youre looking for.

Mountains, deserts, forests, Grand Canyon, botanical gardens, one of the best zoos in the United States, etc, etc, etc. And it costs a hell of a lot less to do it here than it does in California.

Oh, and don't forget no smog and virtually no traffic.

Malibu, theme parks such as six flags, disneyland, disneyland california, san diego, santa monica, san francisco, los angeles, universal studios, most tv shows you watch are filmed in L.A, more diverse, beaches, Orange County etcc Arizona can't compete with California and if you're looking for desert you have Palm Springs, Death Valley..etc California FTW!

 

[gturner]

But without power from states California is going to boycott, all it will have are zombies running amok.

 

[Tawny18]

But without power from states California is going to boycott, all it will have are zombies running amok.

Arizona depends more on California than California depends on Arizona. California is one of the best states in the country. Arizona is too hot and there is nothing to do. Does Arizona even have seasons?There are no beaches. Who wants to live in a state where the only large bodies of water are infested with brain-eating amoeba? Did i mention it's too hot and boring?

 

[Davros]

But without power from states California is going to boycott, all it will have are zombies running amok.

Zombies don't care if the power is on.

 

[gturner]

But if Arizona and Nevada get together for a total boycott they can turn Southern California into something that would make Zimbabwe look like an economic superpower. The majority of the US population (including Democrats) support Arizona's measure to enforce US law, in agreement with the stated policy directives from the White House. If California gets too uppity then other states might also boycott California, turning it into a vast wasteland of storehouses and shooting its unemployment rate to 30% or more. It's fiscally insolvent as it is. A little more pressure and they'll start eating human flesh.

California can't have it both ways, insisting that state law overrides federal law when it suits them (on pollution, pot, and other issues) and demanding federal action when it doesn't (immigration). They are pampered whiners who need to grow up, or the population of the rest of the states will occupy it after the zombies get done eating the current residents.

 

[gturner]

But without power from states California is going to boycott, all it will have are zombies running amok.

Zombies don't care if the power is on.

Exactly my point. By cutting off L.A.'s power Arizona would be tipping natural selection toward the zombies. This could evenutally impact Arizona, but only in the long term, since it will take zombies forever to get through the deserts and mountains seperating the two states. By shifting some of the Minutemen from the Mexican border to the California border, arming them with night-vision scoped Barrett .50's in well placed hides overlooking likely zombie approaches, Arizona should be able to keep the zombies in check.

I don't need to tell you what Sheriff Joe would do to zombies. Bologna sandwiches will not be on the menu.

So if Californians want to avoid seeing a bug-eyed, undead Lindsey Lohan gorging herself on their intestines, maybe they'd better back off.

 

[Tawny18]

So basically what Arizona is saying is "Oh please California please don't boycott us! If you do just remember you get part of your electricity from us" lol. California has one of the biggest economies in the U.S. People leave their state just to move to California especially Los Angeles. I know a lot of people who save up money just to move to California. California's GSP is about $1.812 trillion( one of the largest in the U.S). So, Arizona do you really want to do business with us that bad?

 

[Captain Ice]

Ha! Seems like Arizona really depends on L.A! California is a much better state anyways what does Arizona have? Hmm nothing interesting! California has beaches, mountains, deserts, hollywood, woods pretty much everything youre looking for.

Mountains, deserts, forests, Grand Canyon, botanical gardens, one of the best zoos in the United States, etc, etc, etc. And it costs a hell of a lot less to do it here than it does in California.

Oh, and don't forget no smog and virtually no traffic.

Five words... Late For The Train Coffee - Flagstaff

Ok.. six words...

I love Arizona. Next to New Mexico and Colorado, it's a close tie for third with Maine...

God, I love that place.

Next time you are up there, you should try eating breakfast at The Crown Railroad Cafe.

But without power from states California is going to boycott, all it will have are zombies running amok.

Arizona depends more on California than California depends on Arizona. California is one of the best states in the country. Arizona is too hot and there is nothing to do. Does Arizona even have seasons?There are no beaches. Who wants to live in a state where the only large bodies of water are infested with brain-eating amoeba? Did i mention it's too hot and boring?

60% of Arizona is either mountains or national forests. All four seasons are present.

I don't need to tell you what Sheriff Joe would do to zombies. Bologna sandwiches will not be on the menu.

He'd be serving zombie sandwiches to them.

 

[Tawny18]

We have national forests in California too. We have Sequoia, Lake Basin, Tahoe, Six rivers.. etcc plus we have beaches like Santa Monica.etc. California has way more things to do and way more places to see than Arizona does..Don't forget our theme parks!

 

[Captain Ice]

^However, that wasn't your question. You asked if Arizona even had seasons. The mountainous regions and national forests serve as proof that yes, we do. We even have a number of ski resorts.

 

[gturner]

We have national forests in California too. We have Sequoia, Lake Basin, Tahoe, Six rivers.. etcc plus we have beaches like Santa Monica.etc. California has way more things to do and way more places to see than Arizona does..Don't forget our theme parks!

I've been to Big Bear Lake. Unbelievably cheap real estate for that close to LA, but then the ads don''t tell you why land up there is so cheap: Zombies - lots and lots of zombies coming out of the woods at night every time there's a full moon.

As for your theme parks, weren't they featured in Zombieland?