5x04 The Time of Angels (Grading/Discussion) (SPOILERS!!)

[Australis]

Can't find the question someone asked here (my eyes playing tricks), but it was asked why the Angels displace people in time. That's how they 'eat'. Consuming the time that the person would have had by moving them to another time altogether, Ten referred to them as the kindest killers, or something, it's all in 'Blink'.

I thought this ep very good, and certainly the best of the season so far. Smth and Gillan were on fire, considering this was the first ep filmed, and Alex Kingston was magnificent. I know she wouldn't have me, but I could run away with someone like River Song, truly!

Some stuff I wrote down during the ep:

“What does it say?”
“Hello, sweetie.”

He sort of says, with resentment, “Her past, my… future”. Interesting

“Oops! ‘Er indoors!”

The Doctor says, with relish, “You lot! I’ll never get done saving you!”

“Whatever has the image of an angel, become and angel itself.”

Thought: has to be in the same universe, if River is there. But does she know Amy, like she knew Donna?

“Course, then they had laws against self-marrying, what was that all about, but then that’s the Church for you, uhh, no offence, Bishop.”
“Quite a lot taken, if that’s all right, Doctor.”

I noticed the statues had one head while the Doctor was talking about two.

“I don’t need you to die for me, Doctor, I’m not that clingy!” That is a good line, from a companion.

Definitely the best so far, knocks the 09 specials aside, and as SFX says, could become an all-time classic, if part 2 can match it. Trailer looks good, plus the Crack is brought into focus. It's all happening!

 

[starsuperion]

what a marvelous episode, the suspense was fantastic! I can't wait till next weekend!

 

[Admiral_Young]

Best episode of the season! Awesome to see River again and the Angels...I think they might be my favorite monster of the new series outside of the classic aliens. Can't wait for next weekend's episode!

 

[Australis]

Quote from Dave Golder's review on the SFX website:

“The Time Of Angels” is Aliens to “Blink”’s Alien.

Tru dat.

 

[TedShatner10]

The stuff the Angels are made out of maybe just looks like regular stone and is something much denser or tied into the Universe, so dynamite is useless. Anyway heads should roll at the BBC's marketing department, Doctor Who's producers are roaring down telephones, and the BBC ruining the end credits sucks.

 

[ATimson]

What I am wondering though, why are the episodes 41/42 minutes long? Have they always been that length or is this a new thing for series five and is it so they can be shown without editing huge chunks out for the US and other markets?

Season 1 was similar, before RTD/script editors got a better grasp as to what size of script would be needed. There were still exceptions, like "Silence in the Library", though.

 

[Bones2]

It was alright. Much better than last week, that's for sure. Personally though, I find River Song a boring Mary Sue, and though I've not seen it since it aired, it did feel a bit like a retread of Silence/Forest. And not that much really happened. On the upside, it had moments of tension and wasn't boring. Though this is very much a two-part story, so next week's will really decide for me.

 

[Samurai8472]

What we've learned from NUWho is if you keep running into someone on multiple occasions there's something big going on.

And the cracks following them are big.

 

[Awesome Possum]

Just about the best of Series 5 so far.

Also the show has not only made statues creepy, but now looking at the image of a statue creepy.

 

[captcalhoun]

Norton appears to have a bad habit of ruining Doctor Who climaxes, he managed to screw up the climax of 'Rose' too when the Beeb turned his mic on too early.

that was on the first five minutes, not the end.

 

[Australis]

Ahhhhh, is THAT what that was?! I'd heard it, couldn't figure out what the hell was going on.

 

[Cyke101]

I find River Song a boring Mary Sue,

I don't consider River Song to be a Mary Sue, simply for the fact that she's constantly annoying the Doctor. Sure it's her way of teasing/flirting with him, but he's definitely not reciprocating the way one would with a traditional Mary Sue. Rather, it seems Rose Tyler had that market cornered.

As well, we've yet to find out what her big crime is, the one that she and Octavian briefly discussed. Also, she seemed to be on the defensive side (she swore there was only one Angel onboard, when really no one was questioning her to begin with), whereas everyone automatically and implicitly trusts a Mary Sue.

 

[Bones2]

Maybe not Rose levels of Mary Sueness, but I get the definite feeling that we're meant to go "ooh, she's sassy and interesting" about River Song, whereas I gravitate between "ugh, god" and indifference. In short, I think we're obviously meant to like her, and I don't much.

 

[Bob The Skutter]

Anyone know how we complain about carton Norton?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/forms/ BBC Complaints page.

I never saw the offending Norton, it wasn't on BBC HD. Fantastic episode I thought can't wait to see more.


Oh and the episode lengths have always varied, some slightly longer than 45 minutes, some slightly shorter.

 

[Jim Steele]

Absolutely fantastic. Doctor Who at its very best imho. Remember all those people who said it was a mistake to bring back the weeping angels? Ha. Ahahahaha. Ha.

 

[Starkers]

Anyone know how we complain about carton Norton?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/forms/ BBC Complaints page.

I never saw the offending Norton, it wasn't on BBC HD. Fantastic episode I thought can't wait to see more.


Oh and the episode lengths have always varied, some slightly longer than 45 minutes, some slightly shorter.

Thanks Bob. Sent the following;

I was very dissapointed to see an advert for the next show playing across the bottom of the screen before Dr Who had even finished, and in fact during what was supposed to be the tense finale of the episode. This was unneccesary and I would really like to think the BBC would be above this kind of thing which you'd expect to find on the more commercial channels. It's bad enough that the BBC now insist on squeezing adverts into the end credits of shows, but putting the adverts in the shows themselves is a step too far. Please don't do this again!

Absolutely fantastic. Doctor Who at its very best imho. Remember all those people who said it was a mistake to bring back the weeping angels? Ha. Ahahahaha. Ha.

In fairness the return of the Angels in the form we saw them in Blink did seem a strange idea. These Angels seem very different, they've been given more intelligence and greater abilities so it works. I'm not sure the scavenger type Angel we saw before would have worked as well.

 

[Jim Steele]

^

So Moffat has more vision and skill in crafting a television show than a bunch of whinging fuckwits on the internet? Who knew?

 

[Starkers]

^

So Moffat has more vision and skill in crafting a television show than a bunch of whinging fuckwits on the internet? Who knew?

Yeah who saw that coming

I trust Moffat, they just seemed a strange monster to bring back given what we knew about them that's all. I figured he'd have to do something with them, I just didn't want a brilliant one off monster ruined, which so far he hasn't done.

There's a difference between whinging on the internet and asking pertinant questions when things are announced.

 

[Bob The Skutter]

Anyone know how we complain about carton Norton?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/forms/ BBC Complaints page.

I never saw the offending Norton, it wasn't on BBC HD. Fantastic episode I thought can't wait to see more.


Oh and the episode lengths have always varied, some slightly longer than 45 minutes, some slightly shorter.

Thanks Bob. Sent the following;

I was very dissapointed to see an advert for the next show playing across the bottom of the screen before Dr Who had even finished, and in fact during what was supposed to be the tense finale of the episode. This was unneccesary and I would really like to think the BBC would be above this kind of thing which you'd expect to find on the more commercial channels. It's bad enough that the BBC now insist on squeezing adverts into the end credits of shows, but putting the adverts in the shows themselves is a step too far. Please don't do this again!

I hope they get enough complaints about it to rethink their usage of these things because I've noticed they're creeping in all over the place and I hate their use.

 

[Brent]

Heh, he always has the brake on, so it makes the familiar landing sound, it isn't supposed to do that normally haha....