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James Cameron's "Avatar" (grading and discussion)

Grade "Avatar"

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it's been mentioned that there were hints in this movie about the next one(s)...
can anybody list those?
 
They have a making of special on Fox Movie Channel (don't know if it's available elsewhere) that's pretty cool. I could really appreciate what Zoe brought to the film after seeing that, it was certainly more than just voice work. Cameron had some pretty damn awesome toys, he basically could see Pandora in real time as he was shooting.
 
They have a making of special on Fox Movie Channel (don't know if it's available elsewhere) that's pretty cool. I could really appreciate what Zoe brought to the film after seeing that, it was certainly more than just voice work. Cameron had some pretty damn awesome toys, he basically could see Pandora in real time as he was shooting.

Yeah, I saw that this evening. The new cameras they developed were pretty damned cool. I'm hoping for a load of this type of stuff on the DVD.
 
WING COMMANDER rented a really nice time-slice rig for its frozentime live-action work (I think three shots), which came out a couple months before MATRIX.

LOST IN SPACE did their live-action frozen-time using a seriously inferior, mostly CG version of the process (just a couple of photographs and a lot of low-rez extrapolation for the in-betweens), over a year before MATRIX.
Like I said, The Matrix was the first one to do it with cameras rather than stills.
 
WING COMMANDER rented a really nice time-slice rig for its frozentime live-action work (I think three shots), which came out a couple months before MATRIX.

LOST IN SPACE did their live-action frozen-time using a seriously inferior, mostly CG version of the process (just a couple of photographs and a lot of low-rez extrapolation for the in-betweens), over a year before MATRIX.
Like I said, The Matrix was the first one to do it with cameras rather than stills.

No, the timeslice rig could have a 35mm MOVIE camera at each end, and the special still rig between. Christ, I have probably written more extensively about vfx on INSURRECTION, MATRIX and WING COMMANDER than just about anybody, I did the CINEFEX articles on them.

MATRIX' innovation was that the cameras actually circled round, so they were shooting their own rig and had to synthesize a background that accommodated the move. Plus they were loads smarter in how they did things than everybody else (on the first film anyway, before they tried to do the foreground the way they did the backgrounds, and accidentally made the movies into WaxPlasticMan-looking parodies of themselves.)
 
Looks like Avatar's run as box office champ is probably over: it took in an estimated $6,100,000 on Friday, while new release Dear John made about $13,800,000 -- pretty impressive for a romantic weepfest without any majorly bankable names in the cast.

Granted, Avatar has been beaten on Fridays before only to still emerge triumphant by weekend's end, but the margin has never been this wide. It's fair to say, then, that Dear John will likely be the winner at the box office for the weekend... but of course, you never really know; Avatar might surprise us yet. For comparison, Titanic remained at #1 for over three months (105 days to be precise) before finally relinquishing the top spot to Lost in Space in early April of 1998.

I must admit, I'm a tad surprised -- I was thinking that Avatar would perhaps be dethroned next week (with the release of genre films The Wolfman and Percy Jackson and the Olympians, as well as the star-studded rom-com Valentine's Day), but I didn't expect Dear John to be the one to topple it. Maybe the book is more popular than I realized.
 
Yeah, Dear John has officially knocked it off the top perch.

With well over $2.2 billion worldwide, I'm sure James Cameron and 20th Century Fox are really disappointed. ;)
 
Dear John, you *look* great. But there's no substance, no personality, nothing unique, behind your physique, your clothes, your smile. I love your looks, but your personality is like a saltine without the salt. Best of luck to you in your future conquests.

~ signed ~

Looking for depth of character.

:D
 
Saw Avatar again this evening; it was even more fascinating this time. The detail and the thought put into everything is incredible.

Ribisi's character is actually rather pathetic.

Grace's avatar resembles the Na'vi less successfully, appearing more human than the later ones. Has this been mentioned in any materials related to the movie?
 
Her eyes are also smaller, and ears less developed. Whether deliberate or not, it suggests that the earlier avatars favor the human elements of the fusion over the Na'vi.

The subtlety of what the actors are able to convey through the CG is remarkable, light years beyond what was being done just a few years ago with Gollum and the like.

Found an interesting interview with Weaver here where it's mentioned that her avatar is supposed to be about twenty years old at the time of the movie.
 
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