Heroes, take two - or three?

[Temis the Vorta]

TV series being developed based on Push.

"Push" centers on people with paranormal powers who together take down a government agency.

Well, who knows. It might have the advantage of being more focused. And their competition is this show in development for Skiffy, so that shouldn't be too tough:

Alphas - follows a team of ordinary citizens who possess extraordinary and unusual mental skills. Using physical feats and mental trickery, this elite force of heroes take the law into their own hands and uncover what the CIA, FBI and Pentagon have not been able or willing to solve. Each possessing their unique and not always visible power, they alone solve the crime, stop the ticking time bomb and catch the enemy.

 

[Mr Light]

I actually thought that was a pretty cool movie and I look forward to seeing a continuation of it. Of course a tv series won't have the amazing foreign location filming or action but still...

 

[Mr. Adventure]

Cue inevitable bitching about Hollywood running out of ideas.

 

[Venardhi]

Marvel should just produce their own show based around mutants. Doesn't even have to include the X-Men though that would be nice for sweeps and for certain storylines. Fox still has the movie rights, but I'm not sure about the TV rights. All these shows are just X-Men lite anyways, may as well bring in the original. We might even get some inhuman-looking mutants that way, which none of the others are ever likely to consider.

 

[Pilot Ace]

I would have much preferred the trilogy or more that was originally planned, but hell I dug Push (flaws and all) enough to give anything related to it a shot. Wish they'd brought on the original writer in some way though!

Marvel should just produce their own show based around mutants. Doesn't even have to include the X-Men though that would be nice for sweeps and for certain storylines. Fox still has the movie rights, but I'm not sure about the TV rights. All these shows are just X-Men lite anyways, may as well bring in the original. We might even get some inhuman-looking mutants that way, which none of the others are ever likely to consider.

They did a few years ago, it was called Mutant X.

 

[sojourner]

Push? Oh yeah, I saw that. Great episode of "Heroes HongKong".

 

[Pilot Ace]

Push? Oh yeah, I saw that. Great episode of "Heroes HongKong".

That joke was already made in the title of the thread.

 

[Obiwanshinobi]

Push, was actually pretty decent. Convoluted in parts, but decent. Better than Jumper, that's for sure.

Speaking of convoluted, Heroes, spun off into a completely different direction where I thought it was going initially. They completely zigged, when I thought they were gonna zag.

Now if they can adapt, Push by Sapphire, haha. Precious: The Series. Oh man. Look out world!

 

[The Habs Fan]

TV series being developed based on Push.

"Push" centers on people with paranormal powers who together take down a government agency.

Well, who knows. It might have the advantage of being more focused. And their competition is this show in development for Skiffy, so that shouldn't be too tough:

Alphas - follows a team of ordinary citizens who possess extraordinary and unusual mental skills. Using physical feats and mental trickery, this elite force of heroes take the law into their own hands and uncover what the CIA, FBI and Pentagon have not been able or willing to solve. Each possessing their unique and not always visible power, they alone solve the crime, stop the ticking time bomb and catch the enemy.

Actually considering Heroes is a ripoff of The 4400, I'd call these shows take 3 or 4 of The 4400.

 

[Christopher]

Push was a cool movie, though not without its logic flaws. The thing is, a lot of what was cool about it was in the execution rather than the concept. Stylistically, it was rather captivating -- a very atypical "superhero" movie thanks to the Hong Kong location and the guerrilla-filmmaking approach. I'd hope a series version could capture some of that style and energy, but it wouldn't be the same if it were shot in the US or Canada.

Still, it did establish an interesting and well-thought-out world -- this whole language and taxonomy of the power categories, how they worked, what their strengths and limits were -- and it would be a shame not to develop that world further. And that's what makes it different from something like Heroes or The 4400 -- it's not just a random grab bag of powers where you can toss in a character with any ability you need, but a clearly defined and consistent set of power classes, each with many members. Heroes has done that to some extent, reusing various powers as it suits them, but it's a minor aspect of the show.

I'd rather see theatrical sequels shot in other exotic locales, but there's potential in a TV spinoff/continuation if it's handled well. It would certainly be nice if they could bring back the same cast.

 

[Captain Craig]

Push was a bad movie as a whole. It is at best a good first act to a trilogy. As a stand alone movie it was bad. I couldn't wait for it to be over and I was at a free screener.

If Heroes had never been done this might be like taking a subpar Buffy movie and making it into something great for the small screen. As it is, with Heroes already on this idea of making Push into a tv show is just sad and bad.

 

[Obiwanshinobi]

i think something like this, could be great on a premium cable network, if not your HBO's or your Showtimes, maybe something like Starz? They've already got shows like Party Down, Crash and Sparticus.

 

[Kegg]

This was a movie? Hm, why hadn't I heard of -

Oh. Jesus. That's just brutal.

Hm. I'm assuming it has some sort of quasi-cult appeal based on the positive reactions here, but repackaging a failed movie as a TV series, feh. Anything these days for an IP I suppose.

 

[Christopher]

I think the reason a lot of people were turned off by Push is because it's unconventional in its approach. It's basically a superhero movie, but it doesn't look and feel like a superhero movie, more like a low-budget indie film (which it pretty much was). And admittedly, it's got more style going for it than substance. There are some significant plot holes in the third act; the attempt to tell a story of Hitchcockian complexity results in a tangle of plot threads that don't quite fit together as a logical whole. I was willing to forgive that because I found it engaging visually and stylistically and found many of the cast members appealing (particularly the female ones). But different viewers weigh things differently.

 

[Pilot Ace]

I feel much the same as Christopher does across the board.

Considering one of those logical inconsistencies, for anyone that has seen it and may have the answer...

Spoiler: Spoiler about the end...

Just how does Evans character, Nick, snap out of the mind-control push he's in at the end?

I do see Carver putting a hand on his shoulder just before he snaps out of it, was he undoing the push? If so, why?

 

[Hyperspace05]

I liked Push quite a bit. I'll watch this. (if it is good)

 

[Temis the Vorta]

TV series being developed based on Push.

"Push" centers on people with paranormal powers who together take down a government agency.

Well, who knows. It might have the advantage of being more focused. And their competition is this show in development for Skiffy, so that shouldn't be too tough:

Alphas - follows a team of ordinary citizens who possess extraordinary and unusual mental skills. Using physical feats and mental trickery, this elite force of heroes take the law into their own hands and uncover what the CIA, FBI and Pentagon have not been able or willing to solve. Each possessing their unique and not always visible power, they alone solve the crime, stop the ticking time bomb and catch the enemy.

Actually considering Heroes is a ripoff of The 4400, I'd call these shows take 3 or 4 of The 4400.

They're both X-Men ripoffs (as duly noted above).

This was a movie? Hm, why hadn't I heard of -

Oh. Jesus. That's just brutal.

Hm. I'm assuming it has some sort of quasi-cult appeal based on the positive reactions here, but repackaging a failed movie as a TV series, feh. Anything these days for an IP I suppose.

It was an okay flick. Good actors, well worn premise, and I suppose the story logic was no worse than what Heroes has been doing lately.

 

[Christopher]

^None of them are "ripoffs," any more than one hospital show is a ripoff of another hospital show or one murder mystery is a ripoff of another murder mystery. They're just shows that share a common genre.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

X-Men started the genre, or if there was some mutant superhero story before them (and isn't there always), it elevated the genre so that it is synonymous with mutant superheroes forever after.

If you imitate the original, you're a ripoff. Sorry if that bothers ya.

 

[Kegg]

X-Men started the genre, or if there was some mutant superhero story before them (and isn't there always),

Funny you should say that, as I'm reading Theodore Sturgeon's More Than Human, and I think it's about that (honestly I don't have a clue.)

They're definitely not superheroes, though, albiet I'd bet I'd rather see this as a TV show or movie then the latest X-Men clo... 'member of an inspired genre.' There's a strange sense about this because they appear to be psychologically different from us, alien in a way. Which I find more interesting than human + cool powers! But whatever. Also maybe I'm wrong it's a confusing book.

I think the reason a lot of people were turned off by Push is because it's unconventional in its approach.

Ah. Reviewers don't 'get it', but it has a charm that appeals to a certain audience who want to see whatever it is the film's peddling. Fair enough.