Normally I'd agree with you... but thankfully I now have less free time on my hands and House is on next week, not to mention Hustle, Shameless and Being Human on my actual television. The timing nicely fits with Heroes being Ruined Forever(TM).
Heroes: "Pass/Fail" 1/18/10 - Grading & Discussion
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Normally I'd agree with you... but thankfully I now have less free time on my hands and House is on next week, not to mention Hustle, Shameless and Being Human on my actual television. The timing nicely fits with Heroes being Ruined Forever(TM).
I imagine Heroes will get renewed solely because NBC has nothing else.
At below 4 million and below a 2 in the demo? On that budget? They could air a reality show for cheap. Sooner or later they need to invest in some new scripted pilots. You have to create new product.
NBC is in real deep shit.
I meant the rest of us remaining, who love to torture ourselves bit still wanna see the finished product
It's really annoying watching Heroes in an episodic format. I know a lot of people complained about Season 3, but I watched it for the first time on DVD and I enjoyed it a lot, probably because I was able to watch a couple episodes at a time. Even in Season 1, would any of you just randomly watch a single episode of that? I'd be willing to bet not many of you and Season 1 is what got us to keep watching this show. Why would we want to do it with a weaker season? I'd be willing to wager that this season will fare better on DVD, so I'm going to reserve my judgement for that.
Also, I heard Entertainment Weekly say that Heroes is highly likely to get a fifth season, which IIRC Kring was only planning five seasons in the first place. So we can get a real ending to this show.
Also, I heard Entertainment Weekly say that Heroes is highly likely to get a fifth season, which IIRC Kring was only planning five seasons in the first place. So we can get a real ending to this show.
That may be what they say in public, but Kring clearly didn't have any plan beyond season 1.
They supposedly did have a plan past s1(are they Cylons?), but the show took off becoming a major hit, and they altered them...namely, they were going to bring in a boatload of new characters after ending the stories for the first ones, but nerves frayed over ending the a1 characters and replacing them, so they had to scramble for plots to continue with the originals.
It didn't help that the new characters they introduced almost universally sucked.
Even this time around, Emma is nice and everything, but her storyline is so repetitive. Each volume seems to get more and more padded. "We don't have enough story here for the number of episodes we need to fill. Let's have the characters do the same thing over and over until we near the finish line!"
Even this time around, Emma is nice and everything, but her storyline is so repetitive. Each volume seems to get more and more padded. "We don't have enough story here for the number of episodes we need to fill. Let's have the characters do the same thing over and over until we near the finish line!"
So, is this the first time in television history that a show isn't cancelled because the network it's on sucks even more than the show itself?
Here's part of an article about Heroes on some TV web site I happened to come across:
Congratulations are in order for Heroes.
Despite the show's low ratings and rumored cancelation, it went into the record books this week for airing the most manipulative, cop-out of a storyline in TV history. Well done, terrible series!
After dragging viewers through Hiro's brain tumor all season, the episode "Pass/Fail" dealt with it as follows:
Hiro passed out. He had afterlife-like visions of a trial in which Adam Monroe accused him of using his time-traveling abilities for selfish reasons. His father (the judge) then found him guilty of this charge and sentenced him to a sword fight with Monroe. Hiro won, and was cured of his tumor with a kiss from his dead mother.
We're not making this up. That's how the show actually resolved one of its main season four storylines, which left us with two questions:
Was Heroes actually being ironic? Most of the episode was dedicated to depicting how much of a waste Hiro has become. It's hard not to think the series was almost winking at viewers with this self-aware plot.
Was Heroes going for such a religious theme? It was impossible to not view the diner as purgatory, while Hiro's mom left him with the unusual message that "destiny is stronger than science." Does that mean one should ignore modern medicine and just rely on... fate?
Congratulations are in order for Heroes.
Despite the show's low ratings and rumored cancelation, it went into the record books this week for airing the most manipulative, cop-out of a storyline in TV history. Well done, terrible series!
After dragging viewers through Hiro's brain tumor all season, the episode "Pass/Fail" dealt with it as follows:
Hiro passed out. He had afterlife-like visions of a trial in which Adam Monroe accused him of using his time-traveling abilities for selfish reasons. His father (the judge) then found him guilty of this charge and sentenced him to a sword fight with Monroe. Hiro won, and was cured of his tumor with a kiss from his dead mother.
We're not making this up. That's how the show actually resolved one of its main season four storylines, which left us with two questions:
Was Heroes actually being ironic? Most of the episode was dedicated to depicting how much of a waste Hiro has become. It's hard not to think the series was almost winking at viewers with this self-aware plot.
Was Heroes going for such a religious theme? It was impossible to not view the diner as purgatory, while Hiro's mom left him with the unusual message that "destiny is stronger than science." Does that mean one should ignore modern medicine and just rely on... fate?
There was, what, maybe 2 minutes of worthwhile material in this episode? Even all the guest stars were wasted. What a joke this show has become. And the article quoted above is right on the money. Curing Hiro's tumor like this is a copout on the level of the Prophets wiping out the Dominion fleet. Bleh.
This was an awful episode. I can't stand this show any more. Yet another boring, unnecessary, toothless Hiro plot, more pointless references to season 1 that make you think "oh yes, when the show was good," an absolutely abysmal "motivation" for Samuel to go nutso, and Parkman's wife still has the terrible new haircut. That being said...see you next week! 
P.S. It's funny that they remembered ol' Lost In Time Charlie...that's at least an improvement over previous Lost In Time Girlfriends this show has featured.
P.S. It's funny that they remembered ol' Lost In Time Charlie...that's at least an improvement over previous Lost In Time Girlfriends this show has featured.
Just to point out - Hiro's tumour was NOT CURED BY HIS MOTHER. The tumour was removed by the surgeons but they said as they were taking him in to surgery that the operation might kill him. Hiro's fight with Adam and his mother healing him were simply him choosing to fight to stay alive. It's a bit of a cliché, sure, but his tumour did not magically go away.
Shockingly, I gave this an Excellent, minus the standard Peter Petrelli Nerf factor and the all new Sylar Nerf Factor and you get an Average.
Shockingly, I gave this an Excellent, minus the standard Peter Petrelli Nerf factor and the all new Sylar Nerf Factor and you get an Average.
The final episode will have Samuel's carnies in a showdown with Team Noah in a superpowered fight to the death, no holds barred. But before a single power can be used, Kate Vernon's character says she doesn't love Samuel, so he is heartbroken and calls the entire fight off. Series over.
I could live with that so long as HRG still caps someone's ass. He's probably the only character left I have time for.
Well, in real life, "inoperable" means "inoperable," not "fairly difficult to get at, but we can take a crack at it and you might live." If there are no long-term effects on Hiro's health due to the tumor, I'll still consider this one a major copout.
Actually, inoperable can mean that death is so likely that no doctor will agree to surgery. It doesn't have to mean 100% certain death.
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