Well, and grocery stores.
Although I like a lot of the store brand stuff. Beats paying $3 extra for Coke or Pepsi's marketing budget. Because I had no idea that soda exists.
Cereal, however, is usually godawful.
Replicators And Branded Food?
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Although I like a lot of the store brand stuff. Beats paying $3 extra for Coke or Pepsi's marketing budget. Because I had no idea that soda exists.
Cereal, however, is usually godawful.
It might depend on how the world grows: branded food is in my experience largely a US (? also Canada) phenomenon, except at the low end of the market.
Australia has adopted many US habits in the 20 years since I first visited there but except for cheap takeaways branded food hasn't taken here.
Australia has adopted many US habits in the 20 years since I first visited there but except for cheap takeaways branded food hasn't taken here.
Since we are talking about the premise if McDonalds exists in the 24th century ... I would have to say no.
From observational point of view, there is no need for fast food places because of food synthesizers in Kirk's time, and later on replicators in the 24th century.
Furthermore, I think that people in general discarded such stupidities after the WW3 and first contact.
Replicators on the other hand can create a wide variety of foods, so long as the computer has it on file, and they are mostly widespread on star-ships and worlds that have an infrastructure unable to feed or clothe it's own populace.
Reason why individuals go to restaurants and such, is to sample actually cooked/hand made dishes made by people like Sisko's father.
If McDonalds actually survived WW3 and all the way into the 24th century (which from my perspective is a bit unlikely), I don't think they would be able to brand anything.
Corporations to my knowledge do not exist, nor does money.
What do they stand to gain by prohibiting relipactors to make their dishes exactly?
Aside from the fact they would be encouraging people to go out, sit down in their own establishment and enjoy the meal there?
I doubt such methods are needed because in the 24th century people are not as lazy as they are today.
Everything is easily accessible with minimal effort, and people could easily go out to say a McDonalds restaurant (if they existed at all) to simply enjoy the experience and the food (which by that time frame would not be as fattening as it is today).
From observational point of view, there is no need for fast food places because of food synthesizers in Kirk's time, and later on replicators in the 24th century.
Furthermore, I think that people in general discarded such stupidities after the WW3 and first contact.
Replicators on the other hand can create a wide variety of foods, so long as the computer has it on file, and they are mostly widespread on star-ships and worlds that have an infrastructure unable to feed or clothe it's own populace.
Reason why individuals go to restaurants and such, is to sample actually cooked/hand made dishes made by people like Sisko's father.
If McDonalds actually survived WW3 and all the way into the 24th century (which from my perspective is a bit unlikely), I don't think they would be able to brand anything.
Corporations to my knowledge do not exist, nor does money.
What do they stand to gain by prohibiting relipactors to make their dishes exactly?
Aside from the fact they would be encouraging people to go out, sit down in their own establishment and enjoy the meal there?
I doubt such methods are needed because in the 24th century people are not as lazy as they are today.
Everything is easily accessible with minimal effort, and people could easily go out to say a McDonalds restaurant (if they existed at all) to simply enjoy the experience and the food (which by that time frame would not be as fattening as it is today).
Or save your preference and just say somethign like "My burger #2."
Dingle Fritz
Lieutenant
I don't care about the pretend unworkable impossible "moneyless everything is free for the taking" economy or debates about it. I just ignore that aspect of Trek along with other parts I disagree with.
The question is not weather or not the corporations themselves exist... the question is do the products/brand identities still exist.
The question is not weather or not the corporations themselves exist... the question is do the products/brand identities still exist.
I KNOW!!!
I'm referring to the fact that, thanks to stupid health standards, the recipe for the cookies has recently CHANGED!!!
Computer: Large plateful of Oreo cookies, Double-Stuff, ORIGINAL RECIPE!!!
And a tall glass of milk, Whole, warm.
Since the brand identities were created and are maintained by the corporations for the sole purpose of getting profit for the corporations, I'd say you're severing the question where you should not.
I can see why they don't specify brands on the show, but why not?
We've seen from Voyager and the EMH's holonovels that IP still exists. Branded food would make perfect sense.
And having to go through long specifications would get old. You can probably program replicators to give you certain things. If I stumble towards my replicator first thing in the morning, it should give me Red Rose tea, hot, with milk and honey, without me needing to say anything.
We've seen from Voyager and the EMH's holonovels that IP still exists. Branded food would make perfect sense.
And having to go through long specifications would get old. You can probably program replicators to give you certain things. If I stumble towards my replicator first thing in the morning, it should give me Red Rose tea, hot, with milk and honey, without me needing to say anything.
Tea. Earl Grey. Hot.
Is Earl Grey a brand...or a flavour?
Chateau Picard is a brand, BTW.
Is Earl Grey a brand...or a flavour?
Chateau Picard is a brand, BTW.
I can only imagine the BK ads in the future where the customer gets violently angry at a replicator when it doesn't serve a Whopper.
A Starfleet Academy protocol, no doubt.
Not if Disney is still around...
Yes you do, otherwise it serves you cold pizza. There is a security lockout that prevents you from ordering it more than twice a week for breakfast.
A Starfleet Academy protocol, no doubt.
Not if Disney is still around...
Look, seriously?
We see drink brands in Trek--and drinks can be replicated. Food brands aren't exactly that far behind.
We see drink brands in Trek--and drinks can be replicated. Food brands aren't exactly that far behind.
Not to mention the news stories about angry dim-whits who dial up Federation Security because the repicator banks are outta Chicken McNuggets....
Well, and grocery stores.
Nah, not everyone will have a replicator. So you'll have to go to the grocery store to replicate your food. Think of it, replicators set up for specific foods, located in different aisles.
It's possible I'm making this up as I go...
If we are speaking 'canon', large 'for profit' companies don't exist. The TNG episode "The Neutral Zone" and First Contact prove that. However, there is nothing to say that one couldn't replicate some 20-21 century 'copywritten' foods, so long as you had a pattern for the replicator. Of course we know from "Lonely Among Us" and other episodes real meat is not eaten, it is replicated protien.
Anyway, what could be better than sharing a Big Mac with your Bolian buddy.
^Well...we still need to make sure the replicator has the recipe for "Special Sauce".
To say nothing of the "Secret Recipe" for KFC....
To say nothing of the "Secret Recipe" for KFC....
I've never actually seen "Author, Author," for fear that it's terrible, but everything I've heard about it really confounds me.
To clarify, was the purpose of IP law in "Author, Author" to permit an artist to control the use of his creations (e.g., "I do not permit you to write your own stories based on my masterpiece of holopornography, Vulcan Love Slave") or was it to ensure a revenue stream to the creator?
I don't actually like either, really, which is one reason why I haven't seen it--I'm sure it will take the Trek mythos and kick it in the kidneys just to generate a boring or stupid story, as Voyager often does. But the former is preferable, as it seems to contradict the Federation ethos only in spirit, and no organic legal regime is fully self-consistent. The latter, however, is completely nonsensical given what we've been told about the Fed economy.
One of the most basic, if banal, failings of Star Trek as a vision of the future is that its extrapolation is so superficial as to encourage this kind of attempt to fit all the economic and social details that support our middle class culture to it in some fashion.
We are perhaps forgetting one important thing here with replicators. They only duplicate the tastes and sensations of the food or drink your having. They aren't the actual substance. That is when you order a burger you are consuming matter but it is what someone has decided that matter should taste and feel like. Replicated food comes from matter energy conversion (transporter) so you aren't getting a whopper but something that tastes and feels like a whopper.
As you aren't actually getting the 'authentic' item but merely a substance that tastes and feels like one. There is no trademark infringement. Unless it came in the BK bag or something. So you could be eating those little colored cubes but formed to look and taste like a whopper..
As you aren't actually getting the 'authentic' item but merely a substance that tastes and feels like one. There is no trademark infringement. Unless it came in the BK bag or something. So you could be eating those little colored cubes but formed to look and taste like a whopper..