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The Chronicles of Narnia

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I've never really been huge into the books, but I watched a broadcast of the 2005 film adaptation of The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe the other night cause it was on, and was pleasantly surprised. The music was pretty good, particularly during the climactic battle.
 
I had enjoyed watching The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe too - on screen - and was quite pleasantly surprised by how much I ended up liking the movie.


And just yesterday I ended up watching Prince Caspian. Which again I enjoyed. I think these are more under-rated than some of the other movies coming out.

The eldest kid kinda reminds me of Heath Ledger too.
 
I liked it. I haven't read the books so not sure how it is as an adaptation.

The had a subplot of Peter and the rest of the kids developing something of an ego. They don't want to be "humble" before Aslan. Only Lucy Pevensie (the youngest kid) has faith in Aslan (and Aslan alone). I know that Aslan is a Christ/God-like figure in Narnia. So it was interesting to watch that.

I thought I was thinking impure thoughts about Anna Popplewell ( I love the Brits for their names!! ) who plays Susan Pevensie (the elder daughter) but then just realized that she's 21 or so now. That scene with her sleeping in the glen definitely made me .... uncomfortable...
 
The Prince Kaspian movie had to change certain things from the book, such as when the Pevensies are introduced into the story, and I think it worked out rather well.
 
The 2005 Chronicles of Narnia movie was like the first two Harry Potter movies. It was completely forgettable and in desperate need of more talented director. It's okay but something that I probably won't rewatch.
 
I agree that the first two Harry Potter movies are relatively weak, but disagree that LWW is like them. It's pretty faithful to the story (but amps up some of the action), it has a good cast, and it looks fantastic. We bought the DVD and I know I'll be watching it again, having seen it two or three times so far.

Prince Caspian... that one we haven't bought yet. It's not as faithful to the novel as the first one was; that's not necessarily a problem, because the novel is kind of a plotless mess, but the movie's changes just made it look like a Lord of the Rings wannabe, which it shouldn't be.

Hope they make more, though. I don't share Lewis's religious beliefs at all, and they are very present in the books, but I loved the hell out of the books as a kid.
 
What I really want to see is someone making a movie out of the Space Trilogy.
 
LWWW is my least-favorite book out of the Chronicles of Narnia, so the movie wasn't especially interesting to me. Still, given the fact that I didn't much like the source material, I found the film better than I expected. And the soundtrack is a definite highlight.
 
Prince Caspian was always going to be a problematic book to adapt. It is, as you say, Steve, a plotless mess.

I remember, when the film came out, that someone complained here on TrekBBS, that the film felt like a reboot of the franchise. "It's the second movie in the series," the poster complained. "Why reboot?" But that's what the book does. Everything we knew from the first film is gone, because Lewis kicks the story ahead two thousand years or so. (The "lost" Narnia appears again, in A Horse and His Boy, but I don't expect to ever see that made into a film.) The "main" Narnia storyline begins here, in Caspian, and the important characters and arcs debut here. LWW is, when viewed dispassionately, a prologue of sorts.

The screenwriters grappled well with the problems the book poses. On the one hand, Lewis doesn't deal with the ramifications of four children growing to adulthood, then reverting back to children, and what this would do to them. On the other hand, Caspian isn't a story about the Pevensies; they arrive in Narnia, get told the important story, and show up at the end and defeat Miraz. Anything the screenwriters did was going to be an improvement over Lewis' structure and story. We can quibble at the need to ramp up the action, like the attack on Miraz's fortress (which, as it's presented in the film, makes absolutely no sense; how did Peter get his army across the water in the first place?) or the Lord of the Rings-esque final battle. Yet, they're not bad creative decisions; Lewis just didn't give them a lot to work with in the book.

Well, maybe the bacchanal. But that's not something Walden Media would have wanted to touch with a bargepole...

Dawn Treader, if it's made, could be fantastic. It's a strong book, it's an adventurous book.

I would probably stop the film series there.
 
They're filming Dawn Treader right now.

I saw the first movie, didn't really like it that much. It seemed like they were trying to make Lewis' fairly straightforward morality stories into something they weren't (epics), and not doing an especially good job of it (Narnia feels about as big as a snowglobe). Fantastic creature effects, though.
 
The creature effects were pretty good. I have to admit that as a longtime Magic: The Gathering player, it was hard not to think of the battle as sort of being like a live action MTG game. :lol:
 
What I really want to see is someone making a movie out of the Space Trilogy.

I read That Hideous Strength when I was a kid. I realize I was too young to get the point of it at the time, but figured I'd give it another shot eventually. Then I read Out of the Silent Planet for a university course and found it so utterly lacking in any kind of appeal that I had no interest in reading Perelandra and rereading That Hideous Strength.

I love the idea of someone like Mel Gibson losing tens of millions of dollars trying to make a movie out of that stuff, though. Anyone who finds the religious allegory in Narnia a little excessive wouldn't make it through a single chapter of Out of the Silent Planet.

Dawn Treader, if it's made, could be fantastic. It's a strong book, it's an adventurous book.

I would probably stop the film series there.

If they get it right, Dawn Treader will be wonderful. I really liked The Silver Chair and The Magician's Nephew too, and though they may not have any LOTR-wannabe battle opportunities (that I recall), they both have some sequences that could look really good on film.
 
What I really want to see is someone making a movie out of the Space Trilogy.

I read That Hideous Strength when I was a kid. I realize I was too young to get the point of it at the time, but figured I'd give it another shot eventually. Then I read Out of the Silent Planet for a university course and found it so utterly lacking in any kind of appeal that I had no interest in reading Perelandra and rereading That Hideous Strength.

I love the idea of someone like Mel Gibson losing tens of millions of dollars trying to make a movie out of that stuff, though. Anyone who finds the religious allegory in Narnia a little excessive wouldn't make it through a single chapter of Out of the Silent Planet.

Actually, That Hideous Strength is the one I *haven't* read yet. I just haven't found it anywhere. I read OotSP when I was much younger and found it an interesting tale; some years later I stumbled onto Perelandra, and while it didn't grab me as much, I liked it well enough. But I haven't found time for the conclusion yet.

There was definitely a heavy religious bent, though. The Venus-as-Eden thing was a tad obvious.
 
I'm not sure it makes sense to criticize the fact that Venus was like Eden as "obvious." That aspect of Perelandra is not allegorical the way that Aslan's death in LWW is meant as an allegory of Christ's death.

Perelandra literally is a story that asks "What if there were another Eden?" The main character knows that he's witnessing another planet's version of Eden and thinks and acts accordingly.

Saying that this was "obvious" is a bit like saying that it was obvious that in Doctor Who's "Impossible Planet," the bad guy was supposed to be the devil. The story is about the Doctor meeting the devil, and it actually makes that fairly plain.

(Hope I don't come across as being harsh; I just wanted to clarify the point that the Space Trilogy (especially Perelandra) is a bit different from the Chronicles of Narnia, in that a lot of the religious elements are actually part of the story's premise; there isn't really a surface level "hiding" the intended meaning (aside, perhaps, from the reader's normal expectations of the sci-fi genre).)
 
I have read all three of the Silent Planet books. I loved the first one, liked the second one, but was less than enthralled with That Hideous Strength. I just don't think it's aged as well as the other two, but I should point out that I know people who think the exact opposite - that That Hideous Strength is the real masterwork. People. Whatcha gonna do?

I agree that all three are religious - then again, so am I. But I think the parallels would be interesting even to some non-religious people. In fact, I know non-religious people who do enjoy those books. Even if you don't believe in sin and redemption and so on, surely the concept is an interesting one? And goodness knows we swallow concepts that are just as unlikely in other scifi and fantasy.
 
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I didn't like a lot of the religious elements in Lewis's writing when I actually was religious.
 
But I think the parallels would be interesting even to some non-religious people. In fact, I know non-religious people who do enjoy those books. Even if you don't believe in sin and redemption and so on, surely the concept is an interesting one? And goodness knows we swallow concepts that are just as unlikely in other scifi and fantasy.
Despite being a godless heathen, I quite enjoy The Screwtape Letters. (Though I should confess, I've not read them in a decade.) I think when the audio adaptation by Andy Serkis comes out, I'll pick that up; I've heard a little bit of it, and Serkis does a fantastic job as Screwtape.
 
^ Does he? Ooh, cool. There's a fabulous version with John Cleese as Screwtape, but alas, I can find it only on cassette, not CD. You can imagine, perhaps, how much fun he has with that role.
 
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