Why didn't they...
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I'm talking about contacting the fleet in the Laurentian system.
Instead of going to the Laurentian system they could have contacted the fleet to meet and engage Nero at Earth. That way Earth doesn't become a giant ass sinkhole. Think after Vulcan but before Kirk is ejected from the ship. Spock said he needed to contact the fleet and that sub-space communications were down. A Starfleet outpost would have exactly the equipment he needed to contact the fleet.
Enterprise was closer to Earth than the Laurentian system; seems like they would have sent a few of the fleet to help Vulcan instead of a bunch of cadets otherwise.
Nero would have had Earth destroyed before they could get there anyway. Spock had given up on saving Earth. He was concerned with saving the other Federation planets at that point.
Of course, he was already emotionally compromised as defined under Starfleet Regulation 619.
Nero would have had Earth destroyed before they could get there anyway. Spock had given up on saving Earth. He was concerned with saving the other Federation planets at that point.
Of course, he was already emotionally compromised as defined under Starfleet Regulation 619.
So... Spock shouldn't have sent an S.O.S. to the rest of the fleet that a nut was headed to destroy Earth?
I understand liking the movie... hell I like it for the most part. But I'll never understand why people act like it's above all criticism.
So a general alert would've done no good? You know, where some of the populace that was able to get off the planet could.
I also don't believe every bit of Starfleet was in the Laurentian system. Vulcan is having seismic events? Great chance to send the graduating class, while supervised by experienced officers, too lend a hand. Starfleet had no idea that the event was being caused by outside influences.
The plot of the movie doesn't hold up to scrutiny. The casting was great and their were some nice character moments.
There's no reason to assume Delta Vega would have been able to send an alert, if Enterprise couldn't. Proximity to the singularity is a good candidate for both.
If the Enterprise sent an alert later, some refugees could have evacuated; it's not a plot point. Ten thousand evacuated Vulcan, and we saw a handful in sick bay.
If you have a point to make about the cadets, you should do so. I don't see one in favor of your argument.
If the Enterprise sent an alert later, some refugees could have evacuated; it's not a plot point. Ten thousand evacuated Vulcan, and we saw a handful in sick bay.
If you have a point to make about the cadets, you should do so. I don't see one in favor of your argument.
Delta Vega has a Starfleet outpost. There's no reason to assume that it wouldn't be equipped with the ability to communicate via sub-space.
The Enterprise couldn't send a signal because sub-space communications were damaged in the first encounter with Nero. Ten thousand were saved from Vulcan because no one knew what was going on until it was too late. The Enterprise could have saved countless humans by giving them a head's up that Nero was coming to destroy the planet. How many could have been saved? That's a point that would depend on how long it is actually taking ships to get from Earth to Vulcan. Which is a whole other can of worms.
The cadets could have been sent because Starfleet didn't know the magnitude of what Vulcan was experiencing. The thinking was that this was more of an aid mission than a combat one.
The Enterprise may have asked the outpost to send a message. As pointed out, there were 10,000 Vulcan evacuees, and we only saw a handful. And that was because that plot line is going somewhere.
If Earth started evacuating, there would be no reason to include it in the movie; it's not a plot point. It's not going anywhere.
If Starfleet only saw this as a learning opportunity for the cadets, there would have been no point in Admiral Barnett mentioning the fleet being in the Laurentian system. They would have sent the cadets regardless.
If Earth started evacuating, there would be no reason to include it in the movie; it's not a plot point. It's not going anywhere.
If Starfleet only saw this as a learning opportunity for the cadets, there would have been no point in Admiral Barnett mentioning the fleet being in the Laurentian system. They would have sent the cadets regardless.
You win! The movie is the greatest invention since sliced bread. Orci and Kurtzman are friggin' geniuses. All other entertainment ever created by man pales in comparison.
Use to be fun to debate the good and bad in the Star Trek productions... until people started treating it like a religion. And it seems that Trek XI is the pope.
You win! The movie is the greatest invention since sliced bread. Orci and Kurtzman are friggin' geniuses. All other entertainment ever created by man pales in comparison.
Jeri never said the movie was great. She just answered your questions to each post you made. You're the one getting all defensive.
Hi Timo!
Quick question: Would Starfleet build, maintain and staff an installation that didn't have the means to contact Starfleet?
You win! The movie is the greatest invention since sliced bread. Orci and Kurtzman are friggin' geniuses. All other entertainment ever created by man pales in comparison.
Jeri never said the movie was great. She just answered your questions to each post you made. You're the one getting all defensive.
Hi Timo!
She saw it twenty-one times at the theater! She doesn't have to say it's great.
Well, it did seem they were late in resupplying him, and it only seemed to be stocked with one partially working shuttle. Who knows what else that base doesn't have?
