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World of Warcraft: Catacylsm?

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I thought I'd post this in a separate thread as it's (1) pretty major and (2) totally unconfirmed.

A rumour from the SomethingAwful forums regarding the upcoming expansion that makes a lot of intuitive sense:

Azeroth is changed completely. Some zones are completely destroyed, some are shattered, some are flooded (Thousand Needles), some are ripped in half. Coastlines the world over are changed. Durotar is wrecked, along with Orgrimmar, which is torn in two. A new orc city is rebuilt over the course of the expansion. Gnomes retake Gnomeregan in an instance.

Malfurion comes back and helps activate the new Guardian of Tirisfal - Thrall. Thrall hands over leadership of Horde to Garrosh Hellscream while Thrall serves as a coordinator for both Horde and Alliance forces and players to combat the Naga and Black Dragonflight. Garrosh declares open war on the Alliance, and you can expect more Wintergrasp like areas on the old map. Due to some political manipulations, Cairne Bloodhoof gets painted as a betrayer and is murdered by Garrosh. Cairne's son takes over as Tauren chief.

For Worgen, the Cataclysm brings the Greymane wall down, revealing their secret -- that the worgen curse has ravaged the kingdom. They've managed to find a cure that keeps their human mind permanently but also keeps them in their worgen form. Seeing that they can no longer survive alone, the worgen residents of Gilneas rejoin the Alliance.

As for Goblins, Deathwing calls on the goblins as slaves like he has in the past. Their leader decides to go with Deathwing and enslaves his people because there's no crossing Deathwing and surviving. Fortunately, a large group manages to escape and join the Horde, knowing that they can't go it alone. See the pattern here?

The level cap is 85. New landmasses include islands that are raised as a result of the cataclysm, underwater zones, and the newly-redone old-world zones. Flying mounts will be useable in Azeroth. Many old-world dungeons are changed completely.

Half the point of Cataclysm is to remake the old quest lines, eliminate redundancy and give an overall narrative to all players, whether level 1 or 80. At any particular vanilla area, you can expect to see reconstruction/relief efforts, or all out war between Horde and Alliance NPC's. Wailing Caverns is going to be completely redone into a lush green tropical area, as a result of the druids working their magic to prevent it from falling into lava.

Leveling from 80-85 will be a MUCH bigger deal. Initially in 2008, they considered not raising the level cap at all, as making those quests takes a lot of manpower away from raiding content. But they are trying to make the story so grand and sweeping that ding'ing will actually MEAN something and not just be something you do.

Expect a couple of underwater cities to be on the backs of giant sea turtles and whales.

Make no mistake, the Old God content is not done. Since Netharion and Azshara both have ties to Old Gods, it is now clear that the SERIES wide antagonists of WoW are the Old Gods.

More from MMO-Champion here.

Ever since the name "Cataclysm" leaked out I've been hoping for something like this, fun times ahead. :D

I only hope there remains some way to access the "old" old world, as it were.
 
Wow, that actually sounds pretty cool. I wonder how they would plan on keeping the old stuff. Would there be a teleporter type thing to bring you back? Either way, if true it sounds like Blizzard has a lot of work cut out for them
 
Leveling from 80-85 will be a MUCH bigger deal. Initially in 2008, they considered not raising the level cap at all, as making those quests takes a lot of manpower away from raiding content.

If that is true and the feeling I get when they announce the expansion, I will probably say goodbye to WoW. I am a very casual player and I really prefer to have content that I can do by myself when I log on and not wait hours putting together a group or having to manage my play time around a guild calendar of events.

Other than the goblin and worgen stuff, I am not sure I buy much else written.
 
There is no way in hell Thrall would make that murdering psycho Garrosh Warchief. I realize his dad was Thrall's best friend, but come on. He also wouldn't let the murder of Cairne go unavenged. This is basically their way of making The Horde bad guys again without having to get rid of Thrall, their most popular hero. With Arthas, Illidan, Kil'Jaeden, Kael'Thas, Lady Vashj, Kel Thuzad, and Archamonde all dead now someone had to step up and fill their place. And we can't have The Alliance be bad guys now can we(even though they basically are)?

I totally applaud Blizzard for doing this. It's radical and it needed to be done along time ago. We always knew The Worgen and The Goblins would be playable one day. And we always knew Deathwing, Azshara, and The Old Gods would make their names felt too. And Malfurion is back. Sweet deal. This is really cool. I'm looking forward to it.
 
There is no way in hell Thrall would make that murdering psycho Garrosh Warchief. I realize his dad was Thrall's best friend, but come on. He also wouldn't let the murder of Cairne go unavenged. This is basically their way of making The Horde bad guys again without having to get rid of Thrall, their most popular hero. With Arthas, Illidan, Kil'Jaeden, Kael'Thas, Lady Vashj, Kel Thuzad, and Archamonde all dead now someone had to step up and fill their place. And we can't have The Alliance be bad guys now can we(even though they basically are)?

I totally applaud Blizzard for doing this. It's radical and it needed to be done along time ago. We always knew The Worgen and The Goblins would be playable one day. And we always knew Deathwing, Azshara, and The Old Gods would make their names felt too. And Malfurion is back. Sweet deal. This is really cool. I'm looking forward to it.

High Overlord Saurfang should lead the Horde.
 
High Overlord Saurfang should lead the Horde.
Yep. The fans like him. No one likes Garrosh. My guess is that there will be this big event where Thrall returns and kills Garrosh. They're not going to kill off Thrall until he at least gets with Jaina Proudmore. The fans won't stand for it.
 
I don't think that Blizzard has the balls to change WoW so much.

Besides, think of how much work would be involved in this! This is more than just an expansion, this would required an entire rebuild of the game.

I bet more than anything that (if true) this would be a WoW sequel, a separate game of it's own.
 
Would this wrecked world be instanced like some of the stories/quests happening in Icecrown? Cuz how would you go from 1 to 80?
 
Other than the goblin and worgen stuff, I am not sure I buy much else written.

Pretty much all of MMO-Champion's considerable credibility is on the line with this story. :lol:

I haven't read a blog, commentary, editorial, soap box diatribe or BBS post today that is willing to just swallow this hook, line and sinker. There is just enough stuff that smells right, but way too much stuff that doesn't. Someone in another forum linked a similar posting release a week or two before Blizzcon '06 and more than half of it was totally inaccurate. It was Blizzard leaking disinformation.

Now, if even 40% of this stuff is true it's a pretty big shakeup for WoW, but this is not the whole and accurate story, I don't believe it for a second.
 
Malfurion comes back and helps activate the new Guardian of Tirisfal - Thrall. Thrall hands over leadership of Horde to Garrosh Hellscream while Thrall serves as a coordinator for both Horde and Alliance forces and players to combat the Naga and Black Dragonflight.
I call bullshit on this one.

1. Since when do Nightelves have anything to do with the Order of Tirisfal?

2. The comics have been setting up someone else for the role of Guardian for months now! Med'an, son of the last Guardian Medivh and the Orc/Draenai halfblood Garona.
So there is no way in hell that Thrall is going to become a Guardian.

3. Thrall handing over leadership to Garrosh. Yeah right. Thrall has always been a bit too trusting of him, but he is not that naive!

At least storywise, this supposed leak is most definitely fake.
 
3. Thrall handing over leadership to Garrosh. Yeah right. Thrall has always been a bit too trusting of him, but he is not that naive!

I don't know. He let in The Forsaken, The Blood Elves, Death Knights, and Warlocks. Granted they always came up with some bullshit explanation for it, because they knew it was out of character for him to do that. So I wouldn't put it past them to do that.
 
I can't comment on the lore stuff as I skimmed over it but Tauren Paladins? Revamp of 1-80? Flying in old world zones? All of this stuff sounds AWESOME.

I am quite psyched to hear more as it's revealed during Blizzcon this Friday. Anyone else order the Direct-TV coverage?
 
I can't comment on the lore stuff as I skimmed over it but Tauren Paladins? Revamp of 1-80? Flying in old world zones? All of this stuff sounds AWESOME.

Tauren Paladins, make sense (Druid's anyone?) if you start reading what they've been putting in lately.

To me, this is going to be absolutely HUGE if they do change it. Emerald Dream anyone?
 
I'm skeptical.

They're going to drastically change regular Azeroth, and add new zones and content?

Sounds like a bit much for an expansion.
 
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