Harlan Ellison COTEF Lawsuit Gains Momentum
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And we have the Bill Bixby hat trick...
Out of 26 episodes, he appeared in 2. That makes him a pseudo-regular?Actually, Kevin Riley WAS a pseudo regular through the first 13 episodes of Star Trek (aka TOS) season one. The analogy doesn't quite hold up. Now, if you used Lt. Bailey from The Corbomite Manuever...
Trooper wasn't even in the story for the original and 1st rewrite.
Out of 26 episodes, he appeared in 2. That makes him a pseudo-regular?Actually, Kevin Riley WAS a pseudo regular through the first 13 episodes of Star Trek (aka TOS) season one. The analogy doesn't quite hold up. Now, if you used Lt. Bailey from The Corbomite Manuever...
I thought he had four - but right now, it is true I can only recall The Naked Time and Conscience of the King where 'Kevin C. Riley' appeared - but still, more than a 'one off'
I thought he had four - but right now, it is true I can only recall The Naked Time and Conscience of the King where 'Kevin C. Riley' appeared - but still, more than a 'one off'
Only the two, but he was a feature character in the early novel "The Galactic Whirpool" by David Gerrold. And appearances in numerous others, including "The Lost Years" and "Recovery".
And so what?
I don' even understand the statement. Original what? Outline? First draft script?
The guys over at Phase II should let HE make his version of City.
Ellison would never let his work be made into a freely distributed fan film. He'd want to get paid for his work.
Then let's get HE to sell it to Abrams for his next ST movie.
Harlan really needs to get a life. He's just a very sad pathetic little man.
I remember his ranting nonsense on the early days of the Sci-Fi Channel when they actually gave that old fool a forum to monologue from. His rants were embarrassingly infantile.
I remember meeting Harlan back inthe "Techno Comics" days, anyone remember that? Harlan and a few others tried and failed to launch a comics publishing company. Harlan was actually reviewing artists portfolios, which I found pretty funny. He pretty much hated everythign he saw, even though several of the portfolios were presented by some pretty talented working artists in the field.
And has anyone glanced at teh overly wordy, long winded diatribe of a book he wrote just bitching about COTEOF? GEEZ. I had to put it down after the first paragraph.
He was actually very sharp and entertaining. Which of course set him apart from anything else on Sci-Fi at the time, and most of it since.
Doubtless he went right over the heads of most of their target audience, the folks that were presumed to eat up all that "Mysteries From Beyond The Other Dominion" nonsense. Franklin Ruehl - now there was a nutcase.
number6
Vice Admiral
Ever drive by a car crash or watch Sarah Palin give an interview?? It's kinda like that.
trevanian
Rear Admiral
I have gone through four copies of it, and have probably reread it a dozen times (same for his history of the STARLOST, a great document of how people fuck up a series).
I always give it out to people and never get it back, they HAVE to keep it.
I think his NF essay work is his greatest strength but his script for FLINTLOCK is outstanding, as are ... well, most of the others, TIGERS ARE LOOSE and THE OSCAR notwithstanding.
See I'm trying to figure out exactly who he was aiming at as he often just went off on screaming rants and personal insults.
One example that comes to mind was his brutal personal attacks of the group from Image Comics. ANy point he might have had was most certainly lost in the endless quagmire of personal insults he was spewing.
To be honest though, I'm pretty sure I know the reason for that particular rant, but I'll be kind and not post it here.
Ruehl at least was entertaining like a circus clown. Not a bitter angry broken down old man.
Ellison was the only thing I could stomach on Sci-Fi Buzz. He was the best part of that show. Moreover, I wished I'd recorded his intros and outros during one of Sci-Fi's rare The Prisoner marathons.
trevanian
Rear Admiral
Nothing wrong with being angry, and you can read 'bitter' into Ellison's take if you have to, but more like somebody with good critical standards who expects better from his so=called peers. Broken-down? If you would take stands on important issues like he did, you'd probably take a few hits that bow your back as well. But I wouldn't want you to put anything on the line, it might make you a bitter angry broken down fill-in-the-blank.