Screw Khan! I want the Borg for Trek 12!

[Thor Damar]

Put me down for the Cardassians too. One of the points in this thread is that I want the new films to do something different. Frankly I'm sick of the Klingons and we've had Romulans for the past two films. Doing Khan to me feels like a rethread and the feat of finding someone to play him will be daunting (they can go with the guy who played Robao).
The Borg can be presented in a fresh, threatening way, up the stakes a bit (maybe have Earth or a major character assimilated). But getting back to the Cardassians, they have a plethora of background and material to mine. One thing to do is to show how they became the militaristic society we saw in DS9.

You could be on to something here. Perhaps Mr Alaimo could play the lead Cardassian or maybe Casey Briggs as a distant relative of Damar?

I agree with the Tholians being in the next movie, I don't think that they can carry the film by themselves but a cameo would be appreciated.

 

[Newski]

BTW I would love to see the Tholians. It would be really kick ass to see them on the big screen!

Actually, I think it's a good time to make some decent looking Gorn for a change, even if it's only a brief encounter in a larger story.

 

[perigee]

Nah - I'm with the Klingons this time. Nu Klingons. Eight foot tall, 250 pounds of pure muscle and hate, as mean as their language sounds like they should be, sooner kill you than look at you. No more stories about the glorious Payless, the great hall of Rikki-tikki-tavi, and whose great house is better than whose.

Ive said it before, and I'll say it again - all through the TOS series, the Klingons absolutely HATED Kirk. Lets give 'em a reason to this time. What could that short little punching bag do that would piss off an empire full of goliath warmonsters?

(Hire this guy.Looks like he's not from this planet in the first place. Dust him down and give him a bumpy forehead. Multiply him by a platoon or two, and give him a ship or three that likes to scrap.)

 

[Temis the Vorta]

The Borg can be presented in a fresh, threatening way, up the stakes a bit (maybe have Earth or a major character assimilated).

Oooh, nice. Assimilate the whole frakkin' Earth and have humans be the endangered species. As long as the no-cop-out rule was adhered to, that's a terrific idea (meaning, Earth can never be un-assimilated). What happens when most of the non-assimilated humans in the cosmos are the ones who happened to be in space at the time, which is to say, mainly the ones in Starfleet?

 

[Da'an]

The Borg can be presented in a fresh, threatening way, up the stakes a bit (maybe have Earth or a major character assimilated).

Oooh, nice. Assimilate the whole frakkin' Earth and have humans be the endangered species. As long as the no-cop-out rule was adhered to, that's a terrific idea (meaning, Earth can never be un-assimilated). What happens when most of the non-assimilated humans in the cosmos are the ones who happened to be in space at the time, which is to say, mainly the ones in Starfleet?

Battlestar Enterprise?

 

[Trek4Ever]

Maybe more like Enterprise's Twilight episode!

 

[Temis the Vorta]

The Borg can be presented in a fresh, threatening way, up the stakes a bit (maybe have Earth or a major character assimilated).

Oooh, nice. Assimilate the whole frakkin' Earth and have humans be the endangered species. As long as the no-cop-out rule was adhered to, that's a terrific idea (meaning, Earth can never be un-assimilated). What happens when most of the non-assimilated humans in the cosmos are the ones who happened to be in space at the time, which is to say, mainly the ones in Starfleet?

Battlestar Enterprise?

So sue me, I'm having withdrawl symptoms.

 

[Trek4Ever]

Hmmm, how anyone for the Tzenkathi? For non-DS9 people, they were a never-seen-onscreen race the Federation had a war with. Literally, they are a blank slate for the writers to play with.

 

[Lookingglassman]

I gotta agree with you. If you are going to "reinvent" trek then dont follow in the footsteps of the earlier treks. Wrath of Khan was a classic and I really dont want to see a "reinvention" of it. Do something different.

 

[khaaan!!!]

They already beat Borg technology in the new film. What would a Borg movie be like:Spock is captured and tortured by the Queen in her S&M dungeon? Kidding aside the Borg have been done to death. I don't want to see Khan either, i love TWOK but lets leave that alone. This movie had an original villain let’s hope they make another one.

 

[khaaan!!!]

Hmmm, how anyone for the Tzenkathi? For non-DS9 people, they were a never-seen-onscreen race the Federation had a war with. Literally, they are a blank slate for the writers to play with.

This is not a bad idea!!! They have a free slate and it is gift to fans :-)

 

[Shazam!]

All I want is something completely weird. Kinda Forbidden Planet-ish; a real throwback to 50s / 60s sci-fi with robots, scantily clad space women, brightly coloured planets etc

 

[Phily B]

I think The Borg are the ace in the hole.

 

[Shazam!]

The Borg are total aceholes.

 

[Too Much Fun]

Let's not forget the Borg are way past their sell-by date. It's been 13 years since they were last a promising villain. It's easy to forget how utterly ruined as a believable threat they were by Voyager post-1996. Bringing them back now would only further taint them, as if Voyager hadn't done that enough already. They're played out, their time has come and gone and there are even people who thought in 1996 they were already ruined. I don't see how they could be resurrected now in a way that would please the fans and new audiences.

I like that Uhura mentioned Cardassians in the new movie. I see that as maybe being a (faint) sign that they could be in a new Star Trek movie and I wouldn't mind that since they've never been seen on the big screen before, so having them around could be fresh. I just hope their silly 90s make-up would be improved for the 21st century.

 

[Shazam!]

I wouldn't want the Cardassians. The only 'existing' aliens I'd accept are Klingons without bumpy foreheads.

 

[Thor Damar]

Nah, the Klingons have had their day. If we want a worthy foe then either the Cardassians or actual Romulans (the magnificent scheming bastards that we all know and love. No tattoos, they ain't Jaffa).

Otherwise unleash the Gorn!

(I know we're going to get the Khest'n Klingons anyway but a man can dream...)

 

[khaaan!!!]

I think i would put my money on Klingons. If they did them without the bumps it would be be a good retro look and would not turn off the non trekkers who enjoyed this movie. It would also stay within cannon for us.

 

[gimpy117]

I think the borg are overplayed...they've already got a movie...

 

[TedShatner10]

Let's not forget the Borg are way past their sell-by date. It's been 13 years since they were last a promising villain. It's easy to forget how utterly ruined as a believable threat they were by Voyager post-1996. Bringing them back now would only further taint them, as if Voyager hadn't done that enough already. They're played out, their time has come and gone and there are even people who thought in 1996 they were already ruined. I don't see how they could be resurrected now in a way that would please the fans and new audiences.

Yes and no, with that opinion. On hindsight the Borg were always overrated cardboard villains that were never thought through properly as a consistant threat, even if we had some very good stories featering them over the years like "Best of Both Worlds", "I Borg", and "Drone". An example of Borg inconsistancy early on: a Borg Cube could plough through a flottilla of Starfleet ships on a war footing, yet Picard/Locutus was randomly standing around a corridor inside the Cube and was guarded by other drones that weren't armed.

The Borg were essentially a one trick pony - they either blew you up or turned you into one of them, end of. They had impressive ships and costumes, but their lack of real culture made them seem initially eerie, but that could easily (and did) deviate into blandness and you couldn't get any lengthy creative milage out of them (unlike with the Cardassians and Dominion). Stargate SG-1's Replicators and Gou'ald went down a similar route as well.