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Herbie J's Review of J.J.'s New "Star Trek"

Herbie J Pilato

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I'm gonna' make this short - and kind'a sweet:

Director/producer J.J. Abrams new "Star Trek" feature film is entertaining, fast-paced and a sweet ride. There's the "kinda' sweet" part.

But it's not Star Trek.

At least, not the Star Trek that many original fans like myself have appreciated since the initial TV series debuted on NBC in 1966.

Truly? The whole crazy is this: All the original Trek fans ever wanted was the original cast in their original roles back on television - where they belonged. No one ever asked for a "Motion Picture" in 1979 to ignite a feature film franchise. No one ever requested a "Next Generation" or a "Deep Space Nine" or a "Voyager" or an "Enterprise" on the small screen.

They were all wonderful television programs. But they weren't Star Trek (well, maybe they first season of Next Generation was Star Trek).

All the Trek fans ever begged for was William Shatner's Kirk and Leonard Nimoy's Spock sparring with DeForest Kelly's Dr. McCoy - again, back on TV. You know, the whole "Triad" thing (Kirk's stoic balance betwixted Spock's logic and McCoy's emotion).But that never happened.

We got a TV generation ahead of Kirk/Spock/McCoy; a few generations before them; space-jumped around them a little bit (on a station and another starship). And they went to the movies (which even Roddenberry wasn't that crazy about). But they were never - again - back on TV, where we they belonged - and where the original fans just plain wanted them to be.

And certainly now, that never will (as so many of the original cast members have left us).But do you know how many new-original episodes they could have made if they started in 1979 and at went on until at least 1999 (when DeForest Kelly died)?!

Oh, per chance to dream...

That all said, the contemporary cast of the new film is outstanding. Chris Pine as Kirk and Zachery Quinto as Spock, and the remaining crew-cast give their all; J.J. Abrams' direction is as crisp and slick as could be; as are all the tech credits associated with the new movie, which is wonderful film, in and ot itself. It's a nice little sci-fi adventure - and I want this film to succeed and make a billion dollars.

But still, it's not Star Trek.

No where to be seen is Trek creator Gene Roddenberry's original etheral, vision, and well, heart, which explored strange new worlds...undiscovered countries, and exuded charm and exhilarated the audience, first and foremost with imaginative storytelling. Roddenberry's initial Trek employed spectacle, fancy, aptitude, humor and adventure, all wrapped within a neat package that soared with a display of a media mosaic of imaginative, fictional and fanciful disclosure.

Can it be that the feature film and Trek satire Galaxy Quest is still the best Star motion picture and/or spin-off of them all?

Looks like.

Full review here.
www.herbiejpilato.blogspot.com
 
It absolutely is Star Trek. And I speak for every original series fan who has watched the show from the very beginning and who lived in my house in 1966. ;)
 
I haven't ever wanted anything specific from Star Trek, just Star Trek. I have and will greatly accept everything I've receive that is Star Trek.

It sounds like your ideal of Star Trek is limited to TOS and the triad. If that is your definition of "Star Trek" then you're right it ain't. But wow you left a lot out and I don't think that is a view of even a majority of original TOS fans.

IMO, if TOS ran from 1976-1999, I don't know how many more Gorn fights I could take...

No where to be seen is Trek creator Gene Roddenberry's original etheral, vision, and well, heart, which explored strange new worlds...undiscovered countries, and exuded charm and exhilarated the audience, first and foremost with imaginative storytelling. Roddenberry's initial Trek employed spectacle, fancy, aptitude, humor and adventure, all wrapped within a neat package that soared with a display of a media mosaic of imaginative, fictional and fanciful disclosure.

Totally is there IMO. [edit] However, I do think it's cool that despite your view of it not being Trek you enjoyed on some level.
 
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I grew up watching TOS in syndication. I lived and breathed Star Trek as a school-age kid. One of the few movies I saw in theaters was TUC.

This movie was Star Trek. It oozed optimism from every pore. The characters were superbly portrayed by an able cast. The Big E looked fucking fantastic.

I really couldn't be more pleased with the finished product and I look forward to the follow-up.
 
I understand your sentiments, but I don't really think your points have much evidence in favour of them. "Star Trek" is something of a moving target; it's a platform for a variety of stories. You've chosen some personal definition of "Star Trek" and declared that the movie doesn't fit, when "Star Trek" is really a variety of storytelling techniques and characters. Also, the desire to elevate Gene Roddenberry to godhood is a non-starter; he had some interesting ideas, but he hit his creative peak long before "The Motion Picture" hit theatres, and Roddenberry's views on "Trek" are not the unassailable set of beliefs some see them as -- nor were Roddenberry's views of "Trek" even consistent. He's responsible for the terminally dull first two seasons of "The Next Generation," too -- in some ways, Roddenberry in his later career made science fiction more vanilla, bland, unthreatening, safe and unadventurous than any other human being alive. I suggest that people try to view the movie -- and stories -- as their own entity, rather than creating some rose-tinted vision of the past and declaring the present falls short. - Ibrahim Ng
 
It's plain just a war movie. And I'm just so tired of those.

Where did you get that idea?
Does this mean you don't like Star Trek II, III, V, VI, GEN, FC, INS and NEM?
Because they all have elements of war in them. Star Trek II is rife with it!

Whether you like it or not, this movie is Star Trek.
You can say no and deny it, you can remove it from your personal canon, but it does not change that one fact.

J.
 
There's no imagination in this movie. Exactly which mystical, wonderful new world did they trek to? What bold new race did they discover? Same ol', same ol'...war, war, war, if not with the Romulans, then with the Klingons...which will probably be the next movie. War.
 
And by the way, what happened to all that controversy surrounding Harlan Ellison and the Guardian of Forever? The only imaginative part of the script - and it was probably deleted because JJ didn't want to give Harlan his due. At least the "Guardian of Forever" would have truly added that much needed "wonder"-aspect that this film desperated needs. But no chance of that.
 
And that's, too, why they had to hold off the release...to rework Harlan's "Guardian" out of the script - and insert all that "black hole" stuff - which we've seen time and time again...right back to the day of Disney's, well, "Black Hole"....
 
There's no imagination in this movie. Exactly which mystical, wonderful new world did they trek to? What bold new race did they discover? Same ol', same ol'...war, war, war, if not with the Romulans, then with the Klingons...which will probably be the next movie. War.

There's a lot of imagination in this movie.

And by the way, what happened to all that controversy surrounding Harlan Ellison and the Guardian of Forever? The only imaginative part of the script - and it was probably deleted because JJ didn't want to give Harlan his due. At least the "Guardian of Forever" would have truly added that much needed "wonder"-aspect that this film desperated needs. But no chance of that.

Speculation, unfounded.

And that's, too, why they had to hold off the release...to rework Harlan's "Guardian" out of the script - and insert all that "black hole" stuff - which we've seen time and time again...right back to the day of Disney's, well, "Black Hole"....

Speculation, unfounded.


J.
 
If it is unfounded then why was Harlan upset in the first place? They were using the idea, and then they didn't. Please explain.

Harlan Ellison's been upset since 1967.
I have an interview with him from TV Guide in 1995 where he blames Gene Roddenberry for everything. He insists that he started the campaign to save Star Trek, that he should be honored for his work. Harlan Ellison goes apoplectic anytime anyone mentions anything about his "Guardian". This is nothing new.


J.
 
This is not an answer. I understand his intensity. But there was a real issue he had with the script. And that script sector disappeared? Why? The script was changed. This was a specific instance. So, again...please explain. With DETAILS.
 
The presence of the Guardian in Trek XI was only pure speculation! No one knew what the movie was about regarding time travel because there was nothing coming officially from the writers. Internet rumors happened, so obviously, Ellison heard those rumors. That's about it.
 
This is not an answer. I understand his intensity. But there was a real issue he had with the script. And that script sector disappeared? Why? The script was changed. This was a specific instance. So, again...please explain. With DETAILS.


"It ain't about the 'principle,' friend, its (sic) about the MONEY! Pay Me! Am I doing this for other writers, for Mom (still dead), and apple pie? Hell no! I'm doing it for the 35-year-long disrespect and the money!" - Harlan Ellison (official website)

Harlan Ellison has, in the past, sued Gene Roddenberry, Paramount, and the Writer's Guild Association.

He tried to sue Warner Brothers for a video interview that everyone else did for free, even though he didn't have the rights to the video.

He once sued over Christmas Tree ornaments of the Guardian of Forever.

He sued AOL for people talking about his story on Usenet.
http://online.wsj.com/article_email/SB105882058352830200.html

So it is with a grain of salt that I take when I hear Harlan Ellison saying anything about anyone stealing his work. You see, Harlan is so touchy, that even mentioning his script in passing by corporate execs (it was all unfounded speculation) is enough for him to bring out the lawyers, so I don't buy it.

J.
 
THAT is an answer. Thank you.

Now then - as far as the previous films being "war movies". That is correct. And I was not crazy about them, either. And for the record, netiher was Roddenberry. The Wrath of Kahn, however, was "saved"...because of the "wonder" aspects of the "Genesis" concept. Quite beautiful and mystical...and enchanting. But as a whole, the films, as well as all the shows, have failed, because they became to soley concentrated on the characters - and not the ENTERPRISE. That was Roddenberry's big complaint about the movies, in particular. And that is all FOUNDED and NOT speculation, :)
 
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