'Stargate' Brings Lesbians Back To Prime Time

[Mr. Adventure]

That's nothing, around here there a lesbian with her own show that comes on at 10 in the morning! The shock, the horror!

 

[Kelso]

And of course there are plenty of hate mongers out there who express their ignorant bigotry by calling people who are opposed to homosexual behavior based on their own moral/and or religious convictions hate mongers expressing their ignorant bigotry.

That's me- bigoted against bigots, hate mongering the hate mongerers, ignorant of ignorance...

Well, maybe not that last one.

 

[ATimson]

The best way to have gay characters is not too are about putting them in, they should just be normal characters and we know there gay but no need to focus the spotlight on them for the sake of trying to be edgy and cool.

c'mon writers get your act together we want stories not a UPN male executive's wet dream.

Unless you've seen the scenes in question--preferably in context of the episodes--there's still hope that we will, indeed, have stories.

A thin hope twisting in the wind, but it's there nevertheless.

 

[firehawk12]

That said, it would have been interesting if the Captain was gay and inevitably hooked up with lots of indigenous men that they'd meet.

I mean, how many women did Shepard bump into? At least 5 probably? It'd be a nice comment on the genre if a hypothetical gay captain bumped uglies with a green skinned man.

 

[Neroon]

And of course there are plenty of hate mongers out there who express their ignorant bigotry by calling people who are opposed to homosexual behavior based on their own moral/and or religious convictions hate mongers expressing their ignorant bigotry.

That's me- bigoted against bigots, hate mongering the hate mongerers, ignorant of ignorance...

Well, maybe not that last one.

Unless you guys and anyone else veering into this tangent want infractions, keep the discussion focused on the original topic - which means the show and the apparent presence of gay characters in it. The last thread that went this direction ended up poorly, so please let's not repeat history.

 

[The Borgified Corpse]

The best way to have gay characters is not too are about putting them in, they should just be normal characters and we know there gay but no need to focus the spotlight on them for the sake of trying to be edgy and cool.

Exactly. Gay characters should be so subtle that you don't even know they're gay until after they're gone, like Serena Southerlyn on Law & Order!

 

[RoJoHen]

Leave it to Sci-Fi to recognize a stellar opportunity to revive a hungry lesbian primetime audience.

Um, is the primetime audience really hungry for lesbians?

Quiznos?

Based on that quote, it actually sounds more like the audience consists of Hungry Lesbians.

Maybe they can have Quiznos contests to help feed the Hungry Lesbians!

 

[Hermiod]

Poor, poor Stargate. They think lipstick lesbians constitute edgy TV? They may as well be the Hallmark Hall of Fame.

Screw "edgy". I'm tired of "edgy". I could happily do without romantic stories of any kind - gay, straight, necrophiliac, whatever.

 

[The Master of Tarquin Hill]

First off, I'm glad that the bigots are pissed off. As always, they can go fuck themselves.

Secondly, as a heterosexual male, I'm really glad that the gay couple are lipstick lesbians!

YAY!

 

[Verse]

I don't think this is anything to worry about for anybody whose opinions arnt to one extreme or another.

Spoiler: Minor spoiler

Only one of the gay characters is actualy on the ship, the other is still on earth so there isnt going to be any orgys.

I'm sure this will just become a little bit of background to help give the character more depth.

 

[Herkimer Jitty]

MmmmMmmmMmmMmmMmmm, Toasty

 

[Kpnuts]

I actually think at least half the SG fanbase are female. At least that's what I gather from looking at the Gateworld forum.

I don't think this is anything to worry about for anybody whose opinions arnt to one extreme or another.

Spoiler: Minor spoiler

Only one of the gay characters is actualy on the ship, the other is still on earth so there isnt going to be any orgys.

I'm sure this will just become a little bit of background to help give the character more depth.

Yeah god forbid we have two gay characters in the same room right? They might kiss!!!! Run for the hills!

The bigots do make me laugh it has to be said.

 

[Gertch]

The bigots do make me laugh it has to be said.

Yeah I have to agree. Imagine those people that have to force their views on me just because I don't want that stuff in my programming. Damn bigots.

 

[Kpnuts]

The bigots do make me laugh it has to be said.

Yeah I have to agree. Imagine those people that have to force their views on me just because I don't want that stuff in my programming. Damn bigots.

I'm forcing nothing. Heterosexuality and Homosexuality are both natural parts of life. You want a series to represent life? SGU is doing that. (albeit with the gutless use of hot lesbians but that's another issue)

Get used to it and stop hiding behind the shield of "ohh woe is me, why do people have to tell me how to think".

Bigot = a person who regards or treats the members of a group with hatred and intolerance.

You're the one hating a 5-10% of the world because they happen to be born attracted to the same gender.

 

[Neroon]

The bigots do make me laugh it has to be said.

Yeah I have to agree. Imagine those people that have to force their views on me just because I don't want that stuff in my programming. Damn bigots.

Get used to it and stop hiding behind the shield of "ohh woe is me, why do people have to tell me how to think".

Bigot = a person who regards or treats the members of a group with hatred and intolerance.

You're the one hating a 5-10% of the world because they happen to be born attracted to the same gender.

Last warning ... to everyone, btw ... take those sidebars and namecalling elsewhere. NOT here. They have no place in this forum.

And that goes for any rejoinders that anyone feels compelled to inflict upon the discussion.

 

[Kpnuts]

Stop running this board with an iron fist! We're having a sensible discussion without abusive swearing and the like. Stop censoring everything ffs. You're the mod, we get it. Just chill, no need to be so trigger-happy just because you have the 'power' to warn people.

We're not veering off-topic, we're discussing the subject matter specified in the original post.

 

[Neroon]

Stop running this board with an iron fist! We're having a sensible discussion without abusive swearing and the like. Stop censoring everything ffs. You're the mod, we get it. Just chill, no need to be so trigger-happy just because you have the 'power' to warn people.

We're not veering off-topic, we're discussing the subject matter specified in the original post.

Have it your way. This isn't iron-fisted handling but insistence that people conduct themselves decently and on-topic. The topic is "Stargate" and its use of homosexual characters. Venting and calling people "bigot" isn't the topic.

Thread temporarily closed, to let cooler heads and better angels prevail.

 

[BenRoethig]

This is dissapointing. I was hoping for the gay characters to be male but what can you do?

Given the setting not much. A female civilian is the logical choice as it will be best accepted. That being said, if done in the right way a male gay character wouldn't be completely a terrible idea. By right way I don't mean some taken gay character who pops up and say "Hey I'm gay" just to please GLAAD or a "Captain Jack type" that hits on every guy in sight and somehow everybody just accepts. The later would make straight guys very uncomfortable and if military would have been given his discharge papers long ago. In other words, would not be selected for a mission like this.

If there is a male gay character, there has to be a story to it. Perhaps finding out one of the airmen is gay and focusing on the struggle of both that character to balance who aspects of his life that are in direct conflict and conflict of the unit on whether they can accept him.

 

[bigdaddy]

So the two gay characters are super hot lesbians?

ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

What a fucking surprise.

Didn't I say that weeks ago?

TPTB have acted like 13 year olds for the last several years, this is no different.

Let's have lesbians!
All right and they can fight in the mud!!!
That's awesome!!!!

 

[Kpnuts]

If there is a male gay character, there has to be a story to it. Perhaps finding out one of the airmen is gay and focusing on the struggle of both that character to balance who aspects of his life that are in direct conflict and conflict of the unit on whether they can accept him.

Why does there have to be a story? Why can't him being gay be mentioned every now an then in passing, in similar situations as to when a heterosexual male character remarks about some attractive some girl is. Keep it light, normal, not in your face. Have the male character behave, act and talk like all the others, no camp rubbish.

Why must there be a struggle and an unhappy gay male? Just make him a normal character on the show, who happens to fancy guys. If you can't show him to be a military officer (didn't Obama say he was getting rid of that antiquated rubbish?)... then just have him as a civilian. Problem solved.