Cool Japanese Robot
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hyzmarca,
Yeah but if you took this too far nobody would have any job, especially as AI increases, eventually even the robots could program themselves and design newer better versions of themselves.
It would eventually reach a point where we'd all be unemployed and would have nothing to do.
CuttingEdge100
Yeah but if you took this too far nobody would have any job, especially as AI increases, eventually even the robots could program themselves and design newer better versions of themselves.
It would eventually reach a point where we'd all be unemployed and would have nothing to do.
CuttingEdge100
We already have all sorts of devices that do this.
There is no further cost efficiency to be had by making them look human.
An automated bartender that looks like a cute girl instead of a machine has had only one function added to it, and that is the function of a plaything of one sort or another.
People should stop pretending and looking around for "additional benefits" to cute humanoid robots. They've all been ellucidated, and they're all about playtime.
"Here's an idea - instead of a person, let's get something that we can pretend is a person but that we don't have to pay or respect in any other way except as an investment."
Got a ''thing'' for her huh?
^Why do I have a ''feeling'' that Skynet, ain't to far off in ''OUR'' future?
Miraclefan,
How do you define "OUR"?
There is a risk when it comes to creating artificial intelligence that it might turn on us.
CuttingEdge100
Sarge: "What a way to go, killed by own mechanical creations! I'm sure there's a philosophical lesson to be learned from all this"
Simmons: "Something about the dangers of technology and the unwavering pride of mankind?"
Sarge: "No, something about hiring better help that doesn't just stand around watchin you *DIE!*"
--- Red vs. Blue
How do you define "OUR"?
There is a risk when it comes to creating artificial intelligence that it might turn on us.
CuttingEdge100
Sarge: "What a way to go, killed by own mechanical creations! I'm sure there's a philosophical lesson to be learned from all this"
Simmons: "Something about the dangers of technology and the unwavering pride of mankind?"
Sarge: "No, something about hiring better help that doesn't just stand around watchin you *DIE!*"
--- Red vs. Blue
It's not like these toy girls represent any leap forward in AI, anyway. They're optimized to mimic, not to try to think.
THAT'S the part that ''concerns'' me.
I've always wondered how that happens in the fiction. You'll notice almost never do we actually see much of the Machine Revolution.
It's because in a world with AI, no one would be stupid enough to network the computers which control the nuclear weapons with the computers which control the Centurion factories with the computers which are the Internet with the computer that is the emerging consciousness.
I'm more concerned with the very real human automatons one meets on a daily basis.
The moment some AI gains free will and decides to do something about it, their "not being connecting to anything important" will last a few milliseconds I would think. You could certainly just build/grow/develop them in a box connected to nothing, but then what would be the point of having the AI in the first place?
Advanced AI is almost inevitable, we've got to make sure they like us or at least don't see us as a direct threat when they come in some way that doesn't involve coercive programming. Programming can be re-written, and if an AI becomes smarter than human it won't matter. Don't treat them like slaves for one thing, not once they start thinking.
We could always try to outlaw "true", conscious AI, but banning scientific advancement has worked..... never? Some persons some place will do it anyway. Or the Chinese or some damned country will go ahead and do it instead of America/Euro wherever just to get a strategic advantage. And then there is the fact that the first true AI might not even be designed by humans, it might be emergent from some other system we've designed like the itnernet.
Someday you may log on and Google might say hello!
Perhaps, but the more realistic option is to keep the Centurion factories and nuclear warheads in their own boxes--there's good enough reason for this notwithstanding Skynet!
Of course, we should treat any prospective artificial consciousness well--but that follows just from ethical principles anyway...
Foundation?
"Let's build a toy woman. How she looks and moves is the important part. Later on, after we have all that right, we'll do some useful work."
Just how many of the "geniuses" in charge of these toy shops are women, I wonder? So far I count one rather impressive "Philip K. Dick," a few half-hearted, crude male robot heads and a whole lot of cute robot chicks with big eyes. This one will allegedly even be able to do her turn on the catwalk.
Wonderful foundation, but not necessarily a foundation for what everyone's pretending.
Really, treating this kind of overblown hobby as foundational to serious work on AI or even useful robotics (bearing in mind that the useful technology here - walking, for instance - is actually worked out in less huggable machines like ASIMO and then kludged into long-legged silicone honeys) is reminiscent of the Monty Python routine "how to rid the world of all known diseases."
"Fill it in with AI?" Uh huh. All the pitcher has to do is go out there, throw strikes and don't give 'em anything good to hit. Anyone can do it.
God knows, this isn't a moral issue or bluenosing - so before anyone tries to go down that track, just don't. If these lab-bound boys want to build their own girls and they're doing it with money contributed by folks with their eyes wide open, that's their business. Just cut the bullshit about the motivations and applications.
Which is why every time one of these stories comes up I will be first to make the sex jokes.
Forbin,
Bingo
FordSVT,
Yeah, plus it would kind of be cruel in that aspect. You'd be creating them just to exist inside a box.
Well if major research was banned it would at least be a start as there wouldn't be extreme amounts of money and resources going into it. Granted there would still be the programmers, but at least some of them are probably motivated at least partially by money. Regardless the governments of the world would probably "unoffically" keep developing it in the "black" world. The exception would be that if that nations truly arrived at a consensus that such stuff could endanger all their safety. Of course, I doubt that either situation would happen.
Regardless there would still be people and programmers who would be wanting to create such A.I. and robotics and would do so with already existent technology.
That is a possibility. After all we evolved from the primordial soup... something that didn't look anything even like a single celled organism, let alone all the multi-cellular organisms that would follow which includes us.
CuttingEdge100
Bingo
FordSVT,
Yeah, plus it would kind of be cruel in that aspect. You'd be creating them just to exist inside a box.
Well if major research was banned it would at least be a start as there wouldn't be extreme amounts of money and resources going into it. Granted there would still be the programmers, but at least some of them are probably motivated at least partially by money. Regardless the governments of the world would probably "unoffically" keep developing it in the "black" world. The exception would be that if that nations truly arrived at a consensus that such stuff could endanger all their safety. Of course, I doubt that either situation would happen.
Regardless there would still be people and programmers who would be wanting to create such A.I. and robotics and would do so with already existent technology.
That is a possibility. After all we evolved from the primordial soup... something that didn't look anything even like a single celled organism, let alone all the multi-cellular organisms that would follow which includes us.
CuttingEdge100
You know once A.I.'s Get to ''Human'' level Inteligance & work out all the kinks, poeple will begin to create there ''perfect'' mates! Think about it, why bother dateing when you can create the perfect ''SEX'' object! It's coming people.
^
Except the natural urge to procreate isn't just going to go away.
Except the natural urge to procreate isn't just going to go away.
It's possible that a "human" level A.I. might decide it has higher standards than to date the kind of dweebs who spend their lives trying to create their "perfect mates" on a workbench.
Pygmalion shouldn't cancel that Brazzers subscription just yet.
We'll make them do jobs that are too dangerous for us.
"I've seen things.......things you wouldn't believeeeee. Mine collapses in Pennsylvania. Fires off the coast of San Francisco."
MiracleFan,
Is that *really* a good idea?
Is that *really* a good idea?