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I just saw the new trailer! (Spoilers? Well, yes!)

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I just saw it on YouTube. In case it's bootleg, I won't link, but search "Star Trek" and look for vids uploading today.

Whoo! I can't WAIT to see it!!
 
Captain X - Its a reasonable assumption that in emergency situations a Captain can grant field commissions to cadets, which Pike seems to have done with Kirk. As acting XO he has every business taking command once the CO has been declared psychologically unfit for command.
 
Captain X - Its a reasonable assumption that in emergency situations a Captain can grant field commissions to cadets, which Pike seems to have done with Kirk. As acting XO he has every business taking command once the CO has been declared psychologically unfit for command.
The thing is, as a cadet he wouldn't be qualified for a commission like that. The ship should already have a chain of command and its entirely implausible for someone who hasn't even completed their training to simply jump right to the front of it. I suspect the only reason it happens is just because as Jim Kirk he's "supposed" to be captain of the Enterprise.
 
I just saw it on YouTube. In case it's bootleg, I won't link, but search "Star Trek" and look for vids uploading today.

Whoo! I can't WAIT to see it!!

Yah I saw it on the Tube too. Holy :censored: was that awesome. The music (hope it's from Trek) really made me feel this could be the epic Trek film we've been wanting, I couldn't help but say WOW out loud. I cannot wait for May.

Also, where can someone get Kirks' bike, looks fast.
 
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH OMGOMGOMGOMGOMG I CAN"T FUCKING WAIT


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EDIT: as in yeah, I found the trailer! Thanks, T'Bonz <3
 
Captain X - Its a reasonable assumption that in emergency situations a Captain can grant field commissions to cadets, which Pike seems to have done with Kirk. As acting XO he has every business taking command once the CO has been declared psychologically unfit for command.
The thing is, as a cadet he wouldn't be qualified for a commission like that. The ship should already have a chain of command and its entirely implausible for someone who hasn't even completed their training to simply jump right to the front of it. I suspect the only reason it happens is just because as Jim Kirk he's "supposed" to be captain of the Enterprise.
That, and Pike has great confidence in Kirk. Also, its probable that a lot of the crew, including many higher-ranking officers, are killed in the Enterprise's first encounter with the Narada.

As for "not being qualified"... captain's discretion.
 
That, and Pike has great confidence in Kirk.
In an insubordinate cadet with discipline problems and a history of civil involvements? Is it that he trusts Kirk, or who his father was? Shouldn't things like ability and training play into it?

Also, its probable that a lot of the crew, including many higher-ranking officers, are killed in the Enterprise's first encounter with the Narada.
There were plenty of commissioned officers on the bridge, including McCoy himself.

As for "not being qualified"... captain's discretion.
:lol: Yeah, I'm sure the tribunal would buy that fly as an excuse for putting someone unqualified in a position to command the ship. And McCoy and whoever was actually in the chain of command next would be right there next to Pike and Kirk at the court martial, provided they survived, of course.
 
On another topic sorta: So ok from what we think we know the Narada by some act of providence gets thrown back into time and comes into contact with Captain Rabau calamity ensues, Kirk's father dies... which scars young Kirk. I get the impression it happans around the time of James T Kirk's birth...

Time passes and Nero decides to attack Vulcan. Does the Narada hang around for 25 years before it does so or did Nero then jump the ship ahead in time? Seems there's a gap between the first attack and the later one.

Sharr
 
That, and Pike has great confidence in Kirk.
In an insubordinate cadet with discipline problems and a history of civil involvements? Is it that he trusts Kirk, or who his father was? Shouldn't things like ability and training play into it?

Also, its probable that a lot of the crew, including many higher-ranking officers, are killed in the Enterprise's first encounter with the Narada.
There were plenty of commissioned officers on the bridge, including McCoy himself.

As for "not being qualified"... captain's discretion.
:lol: Yeah, I'm sure the tribunal would buy that fly as an excuse for putting someone unqualified in a position to command the ship. And McCoy and whoever was actually in the chain of command next would be right there next to Pike and Kirk at the court martial, provided they survived, of course.
McCoy was a medical officer, even less suited to command than Kirk. And once Pike made Kirk acting XO, his "cadet" status was effectively nullified. He ranked everyone on the ship but Pike and Spock.

On another topic sorta: So ok from what we think we know the Narada by some act of providence gets thrown back into time and comes into contact with Captain Rabau calamity ensues, Kirk's father dies... which scars young Kirk. I get the impression it happans around the time of James T Kirk's birth...

Time passes and Nero decides to attack Vulcan. Does the Narada hang around for 25 years before it does so or did Nero then jump the ship ahead in time? Seems there's a gap between the first attack and the later one.

Sharr
I'm sure he time-jumped it ahead.

I notice at least one appearance of the Narada seems to take place around a star. Slingshot effect? We know Nero's ship is a mining vessel and not designed for time travel... slignshot effects are a proven way of turning a warp-driven ship into a time machine.

There were plenty of commissioned officers on the bridge, including McCoy himself.

McCoy is not part of the chain of command (even though he's an officer).
Correct. In TOS, even though Scotty and McCoy share the same rank, when Kirk and Spock are not on the ship, command passes to Scotty.
 
McCoy is not part of the chain of command (even though he's an officer).
But he's still more qualified for command than Kirk as a cadet is. All he'd be able to do is to retreat, but he's still more qualified to command than Kirk if there were only the two of them left.

McCoy was a medical officer, even less suited to command than Kirk.
No, he's an actual officer, making him more qualified to command than Kirk.

And once Pike made Kirk acting XO, his "cadet" status was effectively nullified. He ranked everyone on the ship but Pike and Spock.
That action would never hold up in court and is implausible besides. Kirk was not qualified to be placed in a position to command the ship.
 
Are you sure Kirk is on the Enterprise as a Cadet? For all we know, some time passes, and he's a Lieutenant, or Lt. Comm.

I'm just saying since the writes state that they wanted to make sure the history is right...so would that not include some time at an officer on the Farragut?

Either that, or he was a Lt. already in the Academy, and the Farragut was only training missions... But then again, what do I know? We know absolutely nothing as to how everything plays out...maybe it all fits into canon, or maybe, it doesn't.
 
Are you sure Kirk is on the Enterprise as a Cadet? For all we know, some time passes, and he's a Lieutenant, or Lt. Comm.

If Kirk was already an officer of any kind, then why would McCoy have needed to fake an illness in Kirk in order to get him on board the ship?

You'll also notice that Kirk does not wear a normal Starfleet uniform, just a black shirt... isn't black the cadet color in this timeframe?
 
McCoy is not part of the chain of command (even though he's an officer).
But he's still more qualified for command than Kirk as a cadet is. All he'd be able to do is to retreat, but he's still more qualified to command than Kirk if there were only the two of them left.

McCoy was a medical officer, even less suited to command than Kirk.
No, he's an actual officer, making him more qualified to command than Kirk.

And once Pike made Kirk acting XO, his "cadet" status was effectively nullified. He ranked everyone on the ship but Pike and Spock.
That action would never hold up in court and is implausible besides. Kirk was not qualified to be placed in a position to command the ship.
It is the Captain's decision, and Kirk has already impressed Pike at this point by warning him in advance of the Narada's attack on Vulcan. On a ship a captain CAN grant field commissions and promotions. Starfleet command can later override this if they so chose, but I doubt they'd take any punitive measures against an action that proved a great success.

You'll also notice that Kirk does not wear a normal Starfleet uniform, just a black shirt... isn't black the cadet color in this timeframe?
No, cadets seem to wear red. Kirk's first stop aboard the Enterprise is sickbay, so its likely he took off the red jumpsuit to be examined, and then had to rush to the bridge to warn Pike about the Narada.
 
I'm sure he time-jumped it ahead.

I notice at least one appearance of the Narada seems to take place around a star. Slingshot effect? We know Nero's ship is a mining vessel and not designed for time travel... slignshot effects are a proven way of turning a warp-driven ship into a time machine.
Indeed. This does beg the question, why jump ahead rather then destroy Vulcan in the same time period he entered by accident? Of course I have little doubt there is some story motivation for Nero to take such an action. Just pondering.

Sharr
 
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