Disgruntled Janeway fans: try a carrot

[es!]

well, if this is about business, and letting TPTB know how you feel, I'd like to express my opinion


I would be very disappointed if the TrekLit editors and/or authors decide to resurrect a fictional character, be it Janeway (who I didn't really care about) or Data (who I liked a lot!) - Unless future movies or TV episodes establish it, let the dead rest in peace (or Q Heaven ).

I don't like resurrections either, but I dislike killing main characters off even more. I just fail to see how it could make anybody happier let alone richer.

Well its more realistic.

Yeah sure, then kill off Picard - he's older and that would result in a woooonderful mourning fic

No, I wouldn't like Picard to be killed off either, although it would be more realistic.

 

[LightningStorm]

Ya wanna talk realistic?

McCoy is still alive post-Destiny.

[hyperbole]He's like 18 trillion years old. Older than the Borg itself, yet he's still alive, and still working for Starfleet![/hyperbole]

 

[RonG]

as we've never had a "real" captain's death in Star Trek

Um Kirk and Spock anyone.

indeed (oops)

well, not in the 24th century

 

[RonG]

Ya wanna talk realistic?

McCoy is still alive post-Destiny.

[hyperbole]He's like 18 trillion years old. Older than the Borg itself, yet he's still alive, and still working for Starfleet![/hyperbole]

yeah - this one gets me too....
let go of McCoy, people!

I wonder, has any author suggested McCoy be retired...permanently?

 

[Dayton Ward]

We did, but we're scared of the Militant McCoy fans.

 

[JoeZhang]

I don't like resurrections either, but I dislike killing main characters off even more. I just fail to see how it could make anybody happier let alone richer.

Well its more realistic.

Yeah sure, then kill off Picard - he's older and that would result in a woooonderful mourning fic

No, I wouldn't like Picard to be killed off either, although it would be more realistic.

If someone writes a story where Picard dies, I'd read it and see if it was a good story - if it was, I wouldn't be that bothered. If it was a poor story, then I'd be bothered by it a bit - but only a bit. I can't say in my personal view of the world, fictional characters being killed off does much to get me worked up.

 

[RonG]

heck, IIRC many people (me included) went into Destiny believing that Picard would die...

...I don't recall Militant Picard Fans flocking by the dozens and storming TrekBBS...

 

[LightningStorm]

heck, IIRC many people (me included) went into Destiny believing that Picard would die...

...I don't recall Militant Picard Fans flocking by the dozens and storming TrekBBS...

To be fair, no one was storming the board before Before Dishonor either. Had he actually died I'm sure we'd have had someone here jumping up and down about it sooner or later.

 

[JoeZhang]

In some ways, I actually think it would be interesting to take Picard off the stage for a bit (maybe he could have a bit of Paternity leave?) as he tends to overshadow other characters in the stories he's in.

 

[RonG]

JoeZhang, I think this has quite a few intriguing possibilities:
Imagine Worf as Acting Captain... flexing his diplomatic skills again (he was an ambassador).

Maybe if the E-E was on some long term mission, so if Picard "went away", Starfleet wouldn't automatically send a replacement (like they did way back when with Jellico)...

 

[DimesDan]

heck, IIRC many people (me included) went into Destiny believing that Picard would die...

...I don't recall Militant Picard Fans flocking by the dozens and storming TrekBBS...

I must admit, I was thinking that Picard would shuffle off his mortal coil and the entire sol system would be destroyed by the Borg, but it didn't and after reading Destiny, I'm actually glad neither happened.

 

[JoeZhang]

I mentioned this before - I don't like *some* of the directions that the trekverse has taken but I certainly think that it's more interesting now it's a living breathing changing universe.

When the novels were numbered, you'd get a good story but you knew that the life changing events within would never be mentioned again.

If I had any complaints, I'd say that certain elements were not radical enough.

 

[JoeZhang]

heck, IIRC many people (me included) went into Destiny believing that Picard would die...

...I don't recall Militant Picard Fans flocking by the dozens and storming TrekBBS...

I must admit, I was thinking that Picard would shuffle off his mortal coil and the entire sol system would be destroyed by the Borg, but it didn't and after reading Destiny, I'm actually glad neither happened.

It was never going to happen but it might have been interesting if Earth had been destroyed.

 

[elaithin]

And the fact that people considered that even possible means the good folks at Pocket Books are doing their jobs, and doing them very well.

 

[Hartzilla2007]

I think - and it's a pure speculation - that Janeway will be revived in an amazing manner. Of course Pocket Books can't reveal it now because that mourning fic (yeah, I mean Full Circle) won't have any deep effect if it would be known that the caracter would be eventually revived.

If they do bring her back it will be after she's done with her infinate supply of coffee. Sadly I think that will be some where around the 999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999 century.

 

[Thrawn]

And the fact that people considered that even possible means the good folks at Pocket Books are doing their jobs, and doing them very well.

Quoted for truth.

 

[Trent Roman]

While "ordinary", unheroic death is indeed realistic in everday life, I like my fiction to portray death as important, meaningful and yes - heroic.

It's funny, I was just saying in another thread that I don't expect or ask for strict realism from Trek, given genre conventions. This is, I think, one point where I am also willing to give realism a pass. This isn't BSG, after all; Trek will never be (nor should it) gritty, and merely slaughtering characters does not edgy make.

i wish all these people who keep bleating about how they hate the franchise for not doing what they want would just shut up and go and not come on here and bitch about the fact. if you're leave, then make like a tree already!

If this frustrates you so much, simply stop reading these threads. You've no right to dictate to others what the topic of conversation should be, but are free not to participate.

Ya wanna talk realistic? McCoy is still alive post-Destiny.

As is most of the TOS cast, other than Kirk (outside Shatner's books, of course) and Sulu, whose fate remains unknown. That would have been a way to have their cake and eat it too: killing one of the iconic original series characters would have amply demonstrated whatever iconoclastic credentials was being sought, but said character would still have had their own series where they would still be alive (TOS books) plus about a hundred years' worth of fictional time for other adventures to take place in. It makes the claims of the necessity of death look rather two-faced when a group of characters survives nearly intact through over a century and others are revived in terribly contrived fashions, and the apparent double standard only serves to reinforce perceptions of preferential treatment.

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman

 

[Therin of Andor]

I would be very disappointed if the TrekLit editors and/or authors decide to resurrect a fictional character.

Kirk, Sisko, T'Pau, Garrovick, Tucker...

 

[Hartzilla2007]

I would be very disappointed if the TrekLit editors and/or authors decide to resurrect a fictional character.

Kirk, Sisko, T'Pau, Garrovick, Tucker...

Actually I think T'Pau's and Garrovick's deaths were reconted and Kirk was resurrected outside regular Treklit continuity so only Sisko's and Tucker's count.

 

[captcalhoun]

and Sisko WAS NEVER DEAD!