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Trek Lit: Adult only?
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Depending on the book and the story line I don't mind battle scenes or a Love scene between a certain couple if it's well written. I remember reading the end of ds9 Cathedral and being shocked at the ending of the book and the consequnces of it continued through several books.I liked Kobayashi maru.The fight scene between Archer and Krell was very descriptive I could visualize the fight. .One of the Destiny books describing a sick bay scene with badly wounded engineers and triage and chaos was kind of graphic. But it was after a battle with the borg.But it shows how desperate the situation was with the borg in the book.
Voldeborg got him.
Do you mean Voldemort?
That my dear is a play on words by the looks of it! lol
Doh! Maybe instead of heading out in a bit I should just go to bed...
As someone that started reading the Trek books in the '80's as a 9 or 10 year old, I will have to admit that keeping them to a PG-13 level with some implied stuff is fine, but something more explicit...well it's just not Trek on some level is it.
As much as I hate to bring the SW universe into this, they've done just fine without anything that 'steamy' in their books and I see no reason how this would really enhance my experience with a Trek novel in the slightest since that really wasn't a part of the shows or movies. I don't know why I have a strong opinion on this actually, but I think that there really isn't a need for this when the story is compelling. At this point I'm not just talking Trek, I'm talking anything I read. If it suits the story that's one thing, but if it's just there for the sake of being there, I can't say I'm for it and would in all honestly skip it and then have a slightly more negative opinion for it disrupting the flow of the story.
As much as I hate to bring the SW universe into this, they've done just fine without anything that 'steamy' in their books and I see no reason how this would really enhance my experience with a Trek novel in the slightest since that really wasn't a part of the shows or movies. I don't know why I have a strong opinion on this actually, but I think that there really isn't a need for this when the story is compelling. At this point I'm not just talking Trek, I'm talking anything I read. If it suits the story that's one thing, but if it's just there for the sake of being there, I can't say I'm for it and would in all honestly skip it and then have a slightly more negative opinion for it disrupting the flow of the story.
Star Wars is actually unique in that explicit violence is allowed, see anything by Matt Stover if you disagree, but sex isn't even allowed to be mentioned. Go back and try and find it, anywhere, and you won't.
Characters get pregnant, sure, but we never see or hear anyone mention or discuss sex, nor is there any TOS-style implication that sex is juuuuuust about to happen. It is verboten, by (iirc, though I could be wrong) mandate of Lucas.
Characters get pregnant, sure, but we never see or hear anyone mention or discuss sex, nor is there any TOS-style implication that sex is juuuuuust about to happen. It is verboten, by (iirc, though I could be wrong) mandate of Lucas.
While I generally agree that SW fiction skids the subject, it isn't verboten, just uncommon. Offhand, the X-Wing series dealt with mating, and the problems arising thereof, like most any other issue.
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Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman
Is that really the kind of thing the fan fic crowd finds erotic? If so, they're even more fucked up than I already think they are.
If you're painting all fanfic with one brush, you're quite wrong. There's quite a lot of fanfic on the forum that doesn't even delve into sex, most of mine included.
The one time I wrote a sexual assault, I did NOT do so with the intent of making it attractive or alluring in any light (and I intentionally obscured it by making it from the perspective of someone who was definitely non compos mentis at the time and thus the imagery is very fractured and oblique, to say the least...my beta-reader said it was only recognizable as a sexual assault because of what I show later about the consequences). It was NOT supposed to be a how-to manual or a turn-on or ANYTHING of that nature. I wrote it because I wanted to show the effect it had on the victim, and how he fought to recover from it and to find strength even in the worst adversity. (Yes, you read the pronoun right. And the shock some people may have had at seeing that is in itself a social issue I felt deserved to be addressed.)
Please, don't make assumptions about all fanfic authors or even the motivations of all who have written a sex scene. I think that is very unjustified and I hope you simply made your statement out of ignorance.
Mmm. I seem to recall a conversation between Horn and Dlarit as to why he would refuse some casual sex. Or that anecdote about Horn and the Selonian exchange officer, and how their sexual encounter was not repeated on account of him being allergic to her fur and her being irritated by his rough (to a Selonian) flesh. Issues of miscegenation and biological compatability... it's been a while seen I've read the books, but I do recall them being a lot more straightforward than most SW fiction (if still far from Shabby Blue level...)
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They never actually said anything, but I swear I remember several scenes in one or some of NJO books that ended couples kissing and dropping onto a bed or the floor or something. I don't remember exactly, but I'm pretty sure there were some scenes where if you knew about sex, it was pretty clear it was about to happen.
To me "implied" sexual situations are different than what I was understanding some certain women, and maybe some men, were saying in that they wanted more romance. I think there is a huge difference between an implied sex scene and one that gets graphic like.."she longed to have him impale her with his manhood. The strength he displayed in forging his own path to her welcoming caverns of sensual delight" is a whole other matter entirely. I would prefer that erotic images like I just desribed not be in the Star Trek novels so that I can feel at liberty to share the Trek books with teenage readers.
Kevin
It's not even explicit scenes that are annoying. I was reading one book the other day where there was some rogue crew who had turns having sex with somebody on their ship. I think there was even a line somewhere along there like "Let's have sex tonight" or something.
I don't mind the books being aimed at a more mature audience, but the recent Trek books have come off as having a pretention to maturity. It's like reading a story by a 14-year-old who's trying to be edgy.
I don't mind the books being aimed at a more mature audience, but the recent Trek books have come off as having a pretention to maturity. It's like reading a story by a 14-year-old who's trying to be edgy.
There is pg-rated sex in the canon material (from TOS on) so you can pretty much expect the same for the books.
The only Trek series that shied away from discussion of sex was TAS as far as I know. DS9 was chock full.
Not an issue.
The only Trek series that shied away from discussion of sex was TAS as far as I know. DS9 was chock full.
Not an issue.
Really, which book was that in?
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