Given the new movie, it seems to be a possibility...
Will Pine and Quinto replace Shatner and Nimoy on the covers?
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Given the new movie, it seems to be a possibility...
What I meant was actual simultaneous filmed productions in more than one continuity, the way that Terminator: Salvation and Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles exist in mutually-exclusive timelines.
I would speculate as time went on, the vast majority of the stories would come from the altered timeline.
Well, yes, that's entirely possible. If a new Trek TV series got made, there's no reason why it couldn't be set in the original ST timeline. And it could coexist with a simultaneous film series just as with the Terminator properties. Not to say that will happen, but there's no reason it couldn't.
If you're talking about Trek Lit stories, that's not likely to happen anytime soon, I think, because we have a whooooooole bunch of original-timeline series and continuity to build on, and we'd have a lot more creative freedom there than we'd have in the new timeline with only one movie to define it and with the books probably being required to step gingerly within it to minimize the risk of contradiction by sequels.
No, I think we'll continue to have the timelines coexisting indefinitely, much like the original and Ultimate Marvel universes.
Well, we don't see those younger Spocks on any cover, do we?
It depends on contracts. So far, any time the covers have required a very young Spock on the cover ("The Final Reflection", "Starfleet Academy" trilogy), the artists have always done a "very young Nimoy" interpretation. Future novels may use the actors from JJ's ST to represent young Spock.
DC Comics were once stipulated to use the Robin Curtis Saavik in some post-ST V comics, Playmates and Pocket were allowed to use Kirstie Alley's face.
They are considered on a case-by-case basis, according to clauses in contracts and time permitted for legal clearances.
Nah, it's just more "logic" from Lynx.
Well, we don't see those younger Spocks on any cover, do we?
And still more "logic." Besides, I believe there is an old human proverb with regard to judging a book by its cover...
Nah, it's just more "logic" from Lynx.
Well, we don't see those younger Spocks on any cover, do we?
And still more "logic." Besides, I believe there is an old human proverb with regard to judging a book by its cover...
Does this really have to become personal?
Can't we concentrate on the actual subject instead of pointing fingers at posters?
Christopher, won't the period of time from ~2250's to 2290's have stories with the altered timeline, versus the 22d century and late 24th century which will continue onward the same?
For now, I imagine that fiction set in the movie continuity will probably concentrate in the timeframe of the movie itself and earlier; I very much doubt anyone's going to jump the gun on guessing what an Abramsverse 2270s or '80s or '90s would be like when we only have one movie to go on.
And since the two timelines coexist, there's no reason there couldn't still be TOS fiction set in the original timeline alongside the new-timeline stuff. It might become less common, perhaps, but I see no reason to assume it would cease to exist.
Most of the time there won't even be a need for anyone to make it obvious. How many novels will need to have Kirk saying, "I was raised by a drunk uncle" vs "My father was on Captain April's first voyage"?
Kinda like how we would pounce on a reference to a beige or grey Starfleet uniform, or the colour of Christine Chapel's hair, being mentioned in early Pocket novels to realise it was set post-TMP.
Seems difficult to me - you'd have to spend the entire book never describing the ship, for one.
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Since when do the novels lovingly describe the old Enterprise in excruciating detail?
It still has two nacelles, a disc-shaped primary hull, a cigar-shaped secondary hull...
^ I was thinking more of the interiors. The bridge set, in particular--where we would expect our crew to spend a fair amount of time--is radically different.
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"Kirk spun his command chair to face Uhura..."
"The security guard raced out of the turbo elevator..."
Rarely "Kirk pondered the orange bridge railing", or "Kirk shielded his eyes from the white light bouncing off consoles that reminded him of holovids of the Apple Store his great great grandmother used to manage in Iowa, next to the shipyards where the Enterprise was constructed. On the ground."
There's a very easy solution. All novels that are set in the JJ universe, will have Quinto and Pine, and all novels set in the Shatner-Nimoy-everything-else universe, will feature those two.
Easy, really.
Easy, really.
Not necessarily "easy" at all. It depends what it says about royalties to actors, and permissions, in the contracts that Pine and Quinto signed.
Nimoy won "likeness approval" when he negotiated his TMP contract, IIRC.
And how often have you seen the interiors -- or the exteriors, for that matter -- described in detail in a novel? I've written for Titan and SCE without having any idea what the ships' bridges or engine rooms or transporter rooms or crew quarters or whatever happened to look like; indeed, the first three TTN novels were written with no idea what the exterior of the ship looked like, and Dave Mack and KRAD had no idea what the Aventine looked like when they wrote scenes set aboard it. Not to mention that the first couple of novels in each of the modern series were written by authors who hadn't seen the shows yet.
So it wouldn't be that hard to write a Kirk-era book that was sufficiently vague on visual and architectural details that it could fit into either continuity.
Even in the regular timeline, we can see distinct differences among the interiors, so the differences could be passed off as minor ship-board tweaks by the crew - didn't the set people tweak the bridge of the Enterprise-D during the hiatus so that each season, the bridge looked slightly different? And the Defiant's bridge had a heavy change in between its first and season appearances - what sticks out in my mind was the different Captain's chair side panels.
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