Starship Enterprise vs. Battlestar Galactica
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The Enterprise could also do all of that while traveling at warp 9.
I love Galactica, and find these kind of versus battles pointless (this is no exception), but I have to say something because that article was absurd in giving the victory to Galactica over the Enterprise.
- The phasers would cut Galactica to shreds before she even knew the Enterprise was there, and could keep up sustained firing for hours (perhaps days) before Galactica's bullets even remotely got near it, and even then they'd pose no threat thanks to the shields and deflectors.
- The Enterprise has FTL sensors, Galactica has plain old RADAR with a different name.
- The Enterprise has been hit directly by nukes (with shields down IIRC) with some minor internal damage and casualties. Nukes are 100 years outdated by the time of TOS.
- The Enterprise's photon torpedoes wouldn't even have to penetrate Galactica's CIWS barrage. They could just beam them onboard. Or just beam off key systems from Galactica.
- Even the unshielded shuttlepods aboard the NX-01 took numerous hits from bullets (albeit from a WWII P-51 and not a Viper) without a problem, so why would TOS era shuttles have a problem, shielded or unshielded? Plus they could just hover out of range on impulse and mock the Viper pilots, and depending on if the shuttle is armed or not, take them out well out of the Viper's firing range.
- Ironically, the article gives the edge in the one area where the Galactica would probably have an advantage - its FTL drive - to the Enterprise. While the Enterprise can plot a course and engage in warp travel almost immediately, the Galactica has a long drawn out process before it can make an FTL jump. The only advantage would come if the destination was known in advance and the Galactica could jump there instantly with its greater range and speed while the Enterprise would take a while to get there. But if it was a battle in deep space with no preset destination, the Enterprise would wipe the floor with them.
- Point defense guns won't hurt phasers. Bullets won't hurt shields.
It's not even a competition.
- The phasers would cut Galactica to shreds before she even knew the Enterprise was there, and could keep up sustained firing for hours (perhaps days) before Galactica's bullets even remotely got near it, and even then they'd pose no threat thanks to the shields and deflectors.
- The Enterprise has FTL sensors, Galactica has plain old RADAR with a different name.
- The Enterprise has been hit directly by nukes (with shields down IIRC) with some minor internal damage and casualties. Nukes are 100 years outdated by the time of TOS.
- The Enterprise's photon torpedoes wouldn't even have to penetrate Galactica's CIWS barrage. They could just beam them onboard. Or just beam off key systems from Galactica.
- Even the unshielded shuttlepods aboard the NX-01 took numerous hits from bullets (albeit from a WWII P-51 and not a Viper) without a problem, so why would TOS era shuttles have a problem, shielded or unshielded? Plus they could just hover out of range on impulse and mock the Viper pilots, and depending on if the shuttle is armed or not, take them out well out of the Viper's firing range.
- Ironically, the article gives the edge in the one area where the Galactica would probably have an advantage - its FTL drive - to the Enterprise. While the Enterprise can plot a course and engage in warp travel almost immediately, the Galactica has a long drawn out process before it can make an FTL jump. The only advantage would come if the destination was known in advance and the Galactica could jump there instantly with its greater range and speed while the Enterprise would take a while to get there. But if it was a battle in deep space with no preset destination, the Enterprise would wipe the floor with them.
- Point defense guns won't hurt phasers. Bullets won't hurt shields.
It's not even a competition.
Galactica also has one advantage going for it besides conventional weapons and nukes.
A full complement of Vipers and Raptors that can be used against it.
While the Enterprise would be focusing all its phasers and photon torpedoes on Galactica, it would have a harder time focusing its weapons on dozens of Vipers pelting the shit out of its shields. Plus, Vipers can be equipped with nukes, so if they could penetrate the shields and land in the cargo bay (or, hell, collide with the ship) and detonate its nukes, Enterprise would be frakked.
Enterprise shuttlecraft look too big and lumbering to do quick movements, so I'd say they'd be no match for a Viper with either Apollo or Starbuck at the controls.
A full complement of Vipers and Raptors that can be used against it.
While the Enterprise would be focusing all its phasers and photon torpedoes on Galactica, it would have a harder time focusing its weapons on dozens of Vipers pelting the shit out of its shields. Plus, Vipers can be equipped with nukes, so if they could penetrate the shields and land in the cargo bay (or, hell, collide with the ship) and detonate its nukes, Enterprise would be frakked.
Enterprise shuttlecraft look too big and lumbering to do quick movements, so I'd say they'd be no match for a Viper with either Apollo or Starbuck at the controls.
Ol Scratch
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Why not? They miss *ALL* the damn time.
Also the big thing people are ignoring is that it's not just about ship/crew capabilities. Starfleet isn't going to just randomly attack the only military vessel escorting and protecting a fleet of refugees (especially such an "inferior" one), and the Galactica's crew isn't going to just sit there and shoot pointlessly against an invulnerable force.
If push did come to shove for whatever reason, Adama and Co. would likely craft some kind of surprise attack to give them the advantage. Liking taking advantage of Starfleet's propensity for diplomacy and inviting aliens onto their ships willy-nilly. Unlike Starfleet, Galactica's crew is desperate and clearly willing to do whatever they have to do to win.
The real debate is trying to figure out why they would be in an all-or-nothing fight at all.
Shouldn't that be "FRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAK!
Not until the Star Destroyers, White Stars, and Daedalus Class cruisers are thrown into the mix in a battle refereed by Q and the Silver Surfer.
Star Destroyer vs. Galactica. That would be fucking cool, and much more apples vs. apples.
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The Enterprise D hands down; Unless of course Data is hearing All Along The Watchtower in his head. a better contest would be the NX-01 versus Galactica.
Depends whos writing the story and which outcome suits the plot.
Galactica would win the first episode dispite having no defence against FTL attack/transporters/photon torpedos/a crew who can do anything with a deflector dish.
But in the second episode Enterprise would win due to a reset button plot.
But in the third episode it would be nulled as another timelines enterprise would prevent both ships meeting in a time travel plot but sacrificing themselves in the process.
Galactica would win the first episode dispite having no defence against FTL attack/transporters/photon torpedos/a crew who can do anything with a deflector dish.
But in the second episode Enterprise would win due to a reset button plot.
But in the third episode it would be nulled as another timelines enterprise would prevent both ships meeting in a time travel plot but sacrificing themselves in the process.
NX-01 vs. BSG 75 would be an interesting fight... But any Enterprise beyond that would tear apart the Galactica.
Aren't Star Destroyers on an entirely different scale to anything else we see in those shows? like REALLY big?
http://www.merzo.net/
If you open it in Internet Explorer, you can move the images around to match up different ships. Check out the different size charts (the next size up has a Super Star Destroyer), because they have different ships in each one. It even has Halo and the second Death Star on there on the larger charts.
I added the Daedalus Class at 225 Meters (the Stargate wiki says it's between 200-225 meters) which would make it the same length as the NX-01.
This is also a good one:
There are a few more comparison charts on the same site:
http://www.st-minutiae.com/misc/comparison/