Regarding the Holodeck (Mature Content)

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With any technology there is the possibility of imporper use by minors, we all are communicating on a over the internet, which has the potential for great good as well as not so good use, espically by minors.

In Trek, I was surprised that there was not more misuse (Barclay excluded) shown, even the misuses were not really that bad. I suppose that by the time the holotechnology has been around for 30 or so years the novility may have worn off, there will always be a market for X-Rated holo-programs. Even in one of my favorite episodes "In the Pale Moonlight" the person they brought in to creat the holo-program at first thought it was supposed to involve some Orion Slave Girls for Sisko. Some things never change, even in 350 years...

 

[Timo]

One would think that the definition of "misuse" would quickly erode, too. What a well-behaved, norm-abiding kid today does with internet would be viewed as immediate grounds for committing into some sort of corrective facility, or even a quick, quiet and embarrassed termination behind the outhouse, just a hundred years ago. OTOH, people from slightly more distant past wouldn't worry a bit; social mores tend to come in waves.

Those hundred years ago, kids were expected to be tiny and deferential adults basically from the day they learned to toddle. These two-three hundred years in the future, the pendulum might again have swung in that direction, and the concept of a protected childhood would be seen as a sick and damaging aberration of the 20th century.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[NCC1968]

Only if we assume that the enlightened humans of the 24c have the same narrow-minded and over-protective of sex values parents in the Western World have today -primarily Americans.

I suspect they don't......................etc...................

It is a parents resposibility to set limits that children can't comprehend - only time(wisdom) shows them it was for the good.

Unchecked "freedom" is like unchecked power....a bad idea - in any century.

 

[ChickenPug!]

I don't care if it the past, present or future; fifteen year old (human) boys are fifteen year old boys. Hell, any age male for that matter, have tendency to search out certain things. It could be a cave painting, film, internet, holodeck; boys are going to want to see naked women. I won't just hand it to my son, but at some point he will find something, one way or another. My job is to watch him the best I can and teach him respect for women.

My question is this, " If your first time is on the holodeck does it count?"

Now my daughters on the other hand. That is a different story. Yes, I know it's a double standard, don't care.

And yes the door needs a lock. I always thought that. Barclay wishes the same thing I imagine.

 

[WillsBabe]

Now my daughters on the other hand. That is a different story. Yes, I know it's a double standard, don't care.

Good luck, dad. They'll find it all, too.

 

[HRHTheKING]

1- Probably.

2- The doors would definitely have to be locked if I was in the holodeck having holosex.

 

[Vic Sixx]

I've always felt the holodeck needed a lock to it, but on a starship I suppose that just not possible. I don't think even private quarters have locks to them.

Another place that lacks any sort of privacy is sick bay.

 

[Anticitizen]

No locks for me, just a simulation for the benefit of all those who enter that makes them think I'm learning how to paint with Rembrandt or something long enough for me to uncouple with the Orion slave girl harem behind the scenes and take my double's place

 

[Hermiod]

I've always felt the holodeck needed a lock to it, but on a starship I suppose that just not possible.

Why not ?

I don't think even private quarters have locks to them.

Yes they do. In "Parallels", for instance, Worf was able to lock the door of his and Troi's quarters and even Troi herself wasn't able to unlock it.

There are many episodes where security/command officers have used their personal access codes to unlock a door in an emergency, so the doors can be locked.

Another place that lacks any sort of privacy is sick bay.

That's true, and has always struck me as a bit odd.

 

[ChickenPug!]

never thought about the sick bay. your right. everyone would see you turn your head and hear you cough

 

[Timo]

We could be looking at an enlightened future and all. Then again, these people still have a nudity taboo, or at least the humans do (and they have infected Worf as well)...

But in the end, how many times do we see people waltzing in on a holoplay or someone's quarters? When the former happens, one of the people entering is always a top-level officer, who could have automatic clearance for all sorts of surprise inspections. And the latter just doesn't seem to happen: at the very least, you have to ring the doorbell, after which the occupant unlocks the door with a voice command of "Come!". And in normal circumstances, these people appear to welcome surprise guests anyway.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[BolianAuthor]

We have to look at what a holodeck is, what it is on, and what the holodeck program is.

The holodeck is hardware, analogous to a computer.

The holodeck program is software... analogous to, well... software.

The holodeck is on a Starfleet vessel. As such, it is analogous to a PC used by someone at the workplace, and therefore, would probably have locks or filters on the software, barring any "inapprpriate" uses of the equipment and related software.

Remember... the TNG Tech Manual says that the 1701-D has regular holodeck, and some smaller "personal" holodecks. The personal ones may not be "filtered", like the regular shipwide-use ones.

 

[TheGodBen]

I wonder sometimes what happens to the mess. Do they have someone go in and clean the holodeck after use?

Then I remember that I'm thinking far too much about the subject.

 

[WillsBabe]

I wonder sometimes what happens to the mess. Do they have someone go in and clean the holodeck after use?

What are you thinking of doing in there that's going to make so much mess that it will require someone to come in and clean it after use?

 

[TheGodBen]

^^^ What any red-blooded 22 year old male thinks of when he imagines what it would be like to have a holodeck. For the sake of the children, lets just say that I spit while in the holodeck. What happens to that spit after the program is turned off? Can the holodeck get rid of it or does someone have to go in and clean it?

Why am I the only person thinking these things?!

 

[WillsBabe]

^^^ What any red-blooded 22 year old male thinks of when he imagines what it would be like to have a holodeck. For the sake of the children, lets just say that I spit while in the holodeck. What happens to that spit after the program is turned off? Can the holodeck get rid of it or does someone have to go in and clean it?

Why am I the only person thinking these things?!

^ I know what you're thinking about. I was just interested in the quanitities involved if you need a cleaner.

 

[ALF]

"this IS counselor Troi!!" - comic at the end of Trekkies

 

[TheGodBen]

^ I know what you're thinking about. I was just interested in the quanitities involved if you need a cleaner.

Even a small quantity is too much. Just imagine Picard going in to the holodeck after Ensign Randy and accidentally stepping in his mess. Picard's shoes would be sticking to the carpet all day.

I really need to shut up about this, don't I?

 

[WillsBabe]

I really need to shut up about this, don't I?

Probably. Suffice it to say, I was wondering why you couldn't clean up after yourself. Don't you do that now?

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

^^^ What any red-blooded 22 year old male thinks of when he imagines what it would be like to have a holodeck. For the sake of the children, lets just say that I spit while in the holodeck. What happens to that spit after the program is turned off? Can the holodeck get rid of it or does someone have to go in and clean it?

We already know that the ship basically cleans itself ("Up the Long Ladder"). No reason not to assume this also applies to holodecks.