has any 1 ever be tie up for fun

[MarianLH]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BDSM:
BDSM is a complex acronym derived from the terms bondage and discipline (B&D, B/D, or BD), dominance and submission (D&S, D/S, or DS), sadism and masochism (S&M, S/M, or SM).

(emphasis mine)


Did you try to edit it and erase that part or something? If so, it doesn't seem to have worked. Or is denying reality preferable to admitting you're wrong? You don't even have to actively admit it. Just stop denying it.

Or not, 'cus either way I'm giving up.


Marian

 

[LaxScrutiny]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BDSM:
BDSM is a complex acronym derived from the terms bondage and discipline (B&D, B/D, or BD), dominance and submission (D&S, D/S, or DS), sadism and masochism (S&M, S/M, or SM).

(emphasis mine)


Did you try to edit it and erase that part or something? If so, it doesn't seem to have worked. Or is denying reality preferable to admitting you're wrong? You don't even have to actively admit it. Just stop denying it.

Or not, 'cus either way I'm giving up.


Marian

Your link's a fraud, or broken. Your quote isn't there. Try this

The BDSM scene tried to distinguish themselves with the expression "B&D" for bondage and discipline from the sometimes pejorative connotations of the term "S&M". The abbreviation BDSM itself was probably coined in the early 1990s in the subculture connected with the Usenet newsgroup alt.sex.bondage. The earliest posting with the term which is now preserved in Google Groups dates from June 1991. Later the dominance and submission dimension was integrated into the connotation of BDSM, creating the multilevel acronym common today.

It doesn't back you up.

Whatever. In 1991 appx .001% of people were active on usenet, even less of the BD and SM community. If you want to give weight to their opinion that's your fetish, but you should try to understand what you read first.

 

[RJDiogenes]

^^ It doesn't work because the colon became part of the link somehow; here is the correct link that contains the quote she cited.

 

[Hermiod]

Regardless of terminology, we're arguing over semantics. It's supposed to be fun.

 

[RevdKathy]

I thought we'd conveniently forgotten that.

 

[Hermiod]

I thought we'd conveniently forgotten that.

People have an unfortunate habit of being judgmental towards what other people enjoy in private. That's bad enough, but it's worse when people who enjoy virtually the same thing start arguing with each other over terminology.

 

[Captain Ice]

As for todays helpful hint #47: You can spend outrageous amounts of money on pittyfuly short lengths of silk ropes at your adult novelty store / at specialty web sites or you can make your own on the cheap. Go to your home improvement center or boating store, buy more nylon rope than you'll ever need, wash it several times in the washing machine with liberal amounts of fabric softner and volia, home made silk ropes. Then cut and trim to the desired lengths and bind or cauterize the ends of the cut sections and let the fun begin.

Oh and Kass would have loved this thread.

I'd never thought of just doing that.

And yes she would.

My contribution to the philosphical debate is that people seem to be focused on what they enjoy. Doing what your partner likes is an incredible turn on. Sometimes tying someone up is just to see how much pleasure you can inflict without them being able to reciprocate.

QFT

To answer the OP, yes and yes. Always fun when one or the other of you is restrained.

I was there this morning, but I only picked up 50 lbs of fertilizer. Now if there is a kink associated with that Im not so sure I wanna know what it is.

Then how come I spotted you ordering 10 4x8s of Homasote and a dozen sheets of 2inch foam insulation board?

And yes, I did see you drooling all over that new Makita sabre saw. But that doesn't mean it's going to hit the shelves before January.

 

[LaxScrutiny]

Regardless of terminology, we're arguing over semantics. It's supposed to be fun.

Actually, we're in a pissing match to see who's going to be on top tonight.

^^ It doesn't work because the colon became part of the link somehow; here is the correct link that contains the quote she cited.

Yeah, I figured it was small clipping error. I was actually sarcasticly responding to the comment that I must have tried editing the Wiki, which was pretty close to trolling, but I settled for a retort.

 

[Hermiod]

Regardless of terminology, we're arguing over semantics. It's supposed to be fun.

Actually, we're in a pissing match to see who's going to be on top tonight.

Oh, fair enough, carry on.

 

[MarianLH]

I was there this morning, but I only picked up 50 lbs of fertilizer. Now if there is a kink associated with that Im not so sure I wanna know what it is.

I'm sure I don't know either, but...

^^ It doesn't work because the colon became part of the link somehow; here is the correct link that contains the quote she cited.

Oops. Sorry about that.


Marian

 

[DanCPA]

Regardless of terminology, we're arguing over semantics. It's supposed to be fun.

Actually, we're in a pissing match to see who's going to be on top tonight.

Get out a ruler and winner decides

 

[TGTheodore]

It doesn't work because the colon became part of the link

Now THAT sounds kinky ... and somewhat oddly surgical.

--Ted

 

[RJDiogenes]

^^ It's from the Troubleshooting FAQ in the BDSM Manual.

I thought we'd conveniently forgotten that.

People have an unfortunate habit of being judgmental towards what other people enjoy in private. That's bad enough, but it's worse when people who enjoy virtually the same thing start arguing with each other over terminology.

As we used to say back in the 60s: "If it feels good and doesn't hurt anybody-- do it!"

 

[CaptainStoner]

It is an interesting subject. I don't like all the BDSM stuff, but it does provoke a strong reaction from me. I'd never thought about it much until a few weeks ago when I viewed some "matierial".
The reaction I have is anger, very strong, even homicidal anger, towards the "Dominant". Not play anger, I want to introduce them to a baseball bat.
When I got over the repulsion of that reaction, I realized I have a strong streak of Alpha Male. My outward personality is very laid back, but that is because I've supressed the Alpha my whole adult life.
So even if you're not into it yourself, exploring the questions of why people do the crazy shit they do can be self illuminating.

 

[Hermiod]

The reaction I have is anger, very strong, even homicidal anger, towards the "Dominant". Not play anger, I want to introduce them to a baseball bat.

I'd suggest anger management classes.

 

[An Officer]

The reaction I have is anger, very strong, even homicidal anger, towards the "Dominant". Not play anger, I want to introduce them to a baseball bat.

I can understand what you mean actually. It's also difficult for me to disassociate BDSM from abuse, even though I might undertand all parties are enjoying themselves. It just provokes an intuitive reaction to stop it.

I once had a partner who wanted me to stop their breathing temporarily with my hand over their nose and mouth, not only was I not aroused by it, I was rather appalled at the prospect of doing that to someone I care about. It's not the most instinctive way of displaying my affection. I actually felt rather disturbed and on the verge of tears at the prospect of undertaking such a dangerous action.

I know this is different from restraining, but it does fall under the same umbrella of BDSM, and I have the same reaction to all the sub-divisions.

 

[CaptainStoner]

The reaction I have is anger, very strong, even homicidal anger, towards the "Dominant". Not play anger, I want to introduce them to a baseball bat.

I'd suggest anger management classes.

I feel pretty, oh so pretty...

Honestly though. The material I saw was not garden variety, smack that naughty little ass tie up your girlfriend stuff. It was way, way, out there. There was a reason to have that anger response and I'm glad I had it.
That being said, I'm more into meditation. To keep from killing people.

 

[Hermiod]

I can understand what you mean actually. It's also difficult for me to disassociate BDSM from abuse, even though I might undertand all parties are enjoying themselves. It just provokes an intuitive reaction to stop it.

I once had a partner who wanted me to stop their breathing temporarily with my hand over their nose and mouth, not only was I not aroused by it, I was rather appalled at the prospect of doing that to someone I care about. It's not the most instinctive way of displaying my affection. I actually felt rather disturbed and on the verge of tears at the prospect of undertaking such a dangerous action.

I know this is different from restraining, but it does fall under the same umbrella of BDSM, and I have the same reaction to all the sub-divisions.

That's breath play and it's dangerous, it goes well against the whole safe, sane and consensual idea.

 

[An Officer]

^ Those who practice it would disagree, I'm sure. The person I referred to, in their normal life, had a position of responsibility and respect, and isn't someone you could easily describe as "insane".

 

[Hermiod]

^ Those who practice it would disagree, I'm sure. The person I referred to, in their normal life, had a position of responsibility and respect, and isn't someone you could easily describe as "insane".

A sane person may commit insane acts.

Throughout this thread I and others have tried to explain that nobody should be made to do anything they don't enjoy. It seems that message is not getting through.

Relationships that don't involve anything more exciting than an occasional 10 minutes of the missionary position can be abusive too.