i don't know. did he?
Leonard Nimoy on the new film
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Thurisaz
Lieutenant Commander
He turned down Generations didn't he?
(For the record, I thought Generations was very good, shoot me.)
Star Trek Generations is awesome
Definitely not the best, but I still have fun watching it.
hopefully nimoy will be doing a rendition of the H.M.S. Pinafore (and somehow patty stewart can be shoehorned in too)
This portion of the statement is his opinion:
"There are some directors who can manage a grand scale and some who can deliver great personal character elements. Not many can do both. JJ Abramsis one of the few. He has given us a wonderful film."
I agree. And I also agree that he didn't have to say anything about the film's quality or about seeing it.
i don't know. did he?
Yes, he did. And base on that, so did Kelley.
We'll we can't ignore that his choosing to pass her opinion along likely gives at least some insight into his own opinion on the film.
Although I, much as cooleddie, tend to worry quite a bit about several aspects of STXI, a strong endorsement coming from Nimoy certainly carries a lot of weight - and it certainly helps to build up my anticipation.
He turned down Generations didn't he?
This has always been a bit of a fallacy.
Most popular reports have it that Nimoy turned down "Generations" because Spock didn't have a meaningful role in it.
So, to the extent that we buy into this logic (and assuming that all other variables remain constant), all this means is that Nimoy thinks that Spock has a meaningful role in Star Trek XI, not that Star Trek XI is any good.
And thank God Nimoy's demeanor is more palatable to fans than Shatner's is, otherwise "not having a meaningful role" would be interpreted as "Nimoy's giant ego and greedy demands for cash are what kept him out of Generations."
As I understood it, he would have liked to have been involved from the beginning (a la TSFS, TVH & TUC) as opposed to "shoot this script as written". He didn't have any connection to the script and didn't want to be just a directorial gun for hire, which is essentially what David Carson was. There is very little directorial stamp on that film, indeed on any of the TNG ones.
Except possibly Nemesis, which is shit.
Except possibly Nemesis, which is shit.
Plus, Nimoy is so old now that they could have just shown him an onion on the end of a string and called it 'Star Trek XI' and he probably would have loved it.
He is clearly a studio plant. 
Dusty Ayres
Commodore
No, he's not. Nimoy is pretty much retired, except if the role is interesting, then he'll be in it. This role is a way of capping his career, and the role of Spock; that's why he's in it.
Exactly. And while you are still inside his mind (or reading it, anyway), can you tell us when he is going to cap the role of Narab from Zombies of the Stratosphere. I'm not getting any younger!
It may very well be a good and enjoyable movie that nevertheless leaves many long time TOS fans dissatisfied. A good movie and a good Star Trek movie aren't necessarily the same thing.
However, I'm glad to see that previews continue to elicit favorable comments.
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of course he's not "required " to make an enthusiastic endorsement like that , but it's a bit unrealistic to think he would say anything other than something positive about the film, don't you think?
Of course it is. He would never have agreed to be in it if he hadn't known it would be good!
And the guy has done how many other major roles? AFAIK Spock is just about all he's every played outside of movie of the week kinda stuff. This might be the last real chance he'll get to ACT period, so I think a grain of salt may be in order here.
I won't claim to read the man's mind one way or the other, just that there may be other behind the scenes stuff going on.
I've got enough respect for Nimoy to believe he wouldn't be involved with this at all if he didn't think it was going to be good.
Y'know, we only know these people through their public demeanors.
It's possible that Nimoy is privately a raging narcissist, and certainly Shatner seems beloved enough by those close to him that he must not suck the air out of every room he enters.
That said, our opinions are based on the behavior that we witness or hear about. That the Shat has to take his lumps as a self-centered, attention-seeking and sometimes bombastic but lovable character and Nimoy is thought of as reserved and rather intellectual is not accident, nor the result of random public meanness. One of their publicists didn't just lose an arm-wrestling contest to the other.
Now, as to the Nimoy/Generations thing - according to him, at least, it was more complicated and political than just "not liking the part." There was some talk of him directing the film as well, and when he read the script and made suggestions, Rick Berman indicated that there wasn't time to make the changes. This was itself some political "arm wrestling" - Nimoy noted that at this point it became clear that he "wouldn't be directing a film for Paramount Pictures" but "directing a film for Rick Berman."
An ungracious soul might suggest that finding himself knocked down a rung or two on the Trek pecking order chafed Mr. Nimoy's famously untroubled ego, among other things. That would be...ungracious, for sure.
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