Here it is - no bloody "A", "B" "C" or "D"

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

It all ended with characters arriving on the bridge, under the command of Captain Pike. Sulu was at the helm – and the bridge. And the uniforms… Classic Trek. Nice. Then for the first time in the history of Star Trek, it looked amazingly functional. It echoes that classic Trek look – but imagine if you handed that design to the folks at APPLE and said… Make it really work. I instantly believed in the functionality of everything. That’s hard to quantify, but it is true. Remember when you saw the war room underground on Hoth in EMPIRE STRIKES BACK? How it just felt functional – that’s what this looked. And it looked Star Trek, without looking as cheap as Star Trek. It was a tech-fetishists wet dream.


maybe that was what I was thinking of.. but I remember someone else describing it in terms of the colors,m and how it was the old crew, and how it just felt "right" in the last moments of the movie.

 

[RedSpar]

The previous posters nailed it when they were talking about bad 50's design elements.

So, I took a good hard look at it and was astonished this monstrosity has 50s excess written all over it. My love of car design is nearly as great as my love of starship design so it was really easy to notice where all the design elements came from.

Here is my design breakdown and critique:

http://www.redspar.com/pics/edselprise.jpg

[Some good feature-spotting, but an awfully bloody large image, so I'm converting it to a link. - M']


Honestly, IMO this (star wars security guard voice) __*thing*__ looks like they took a standard fairly decent looking federation saucer and welded it to some freaky alien stardrive hull from the planet of DeSoto

I'm sorry to all you guys who like this, but this is just an abomination to me. It has no design integration, aesthetic balance, no logical engineering style, it just an Enterprise hit with a transformers stick.

JJ Abrams, how could you! The Enterprise is the first and foremost star of Star Trek even above Capt Kirk. She is literally the main drive for the plot. This was the most important part of Trek not to screw up and IMO you did. 50% of the modelers in this forum could have came up with a better design and they do it for free...

Ugh, I'm feeling sick now, I think I have to throw up.

 

[RedSpar]

Sorry mod, made a smaller pic

Full size: http://www.redspar.com/pics/edselprise.jpg

 

[shipfisher]

Wasn't there a reference, some time back, to part of the film involving an alternate timeline uber-prise that looks considerably different to the true timeline version? Maybe this thing is the former and offered up first to put the breeze up the purists.

 

[cybersoldier]

http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/200...k': An exclusive first look at the Enterprise

If I had to change one thing it would be to move the neck of the ship a bit closer to the main defector to give some space between the saucer section and the engines

 

[M'Sharak]

Sorry mod, made a smaller pic

That one will do nicely. Thanks!

 

[TK421]

Sorry mod, made a smaller pic

Full size: http://www.redspar.com/pics/edselprise.jpg

Yup, that's the point I was making earlier. 50s car design.

I think it was the right instinct, I just think it's way over the top, instead of restrained.

 

[shipfisher]

After a time, you may find that "having" is not so pleasing a thing, after all, as "wanting." It is not logical, but it is often true.

Spock, "Amok Time", stardate 3372.7

To tell you the truth, I can think of no better way to sum up my feelings on first seeing the new 1701. Bang on mate.

 

[Sector 7]

I thought Galaxy Quest was an excellent movie, for what it was supposed to be...
...seriously

So did I. I Still think of it as a Star Trek Family movie.

It sucks.

Surprise?! If you hate it, then they must have done it right.

Some of the complaints of "looks like a muscle car" are dead on, but I think that is a good thing. It's the TOS E with muscle... ready for ACTION... kickin' ass and takin' names. My dad drove race cars, maybe that is why it appeals to me. Joe Moviegoer is gonna like it... in the end that is what really matters. Butts+in+seats=more+Trek

 

[scotthm]

It lacks any of the grace of the original and even more with the refit. It just looks so over worked and ridiculous. The nacelles are so ugly. There is no flow to the bottom of the ship at all! Yuck!!

More than anything else, it looks like a charicature of the Enterprise.

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[Captain_Amasov]

As a designer, I think this will do fine. It's a lot better than the Enterprise-E. I'd like to see a comparison pic with the NX-01 to see if there is an obvious evolution anywhere. I'd also like to hear an opinion from uber-designers Mr. Probert and Mr. Sternbach, if they are lurking about. I know that both are too gentlemanly to be outright critical, but a designers impression would be much appreciated from both.

I can't say that I'm terribly excited about this particular design; some individual parts look interesting, but it doesn't work for me as a whole. Plus the fact that the Bussard collectors (if indeed the new designers knew how they're supposed to work) don't have a clear line of sight to open space would seem to screw up that part of the ship. What suddenly hits me about this ship is the potentially weird and bizarre and crazy left-field thought that because of some timeline manipulation in the film, this is the Enterprise for a good portion of the story, and when everything is set straight, the crew is back on the good old light/medium gray TOS Enterprise, on the good old familiar black/gray/red bridge, and JJ will have toyed with us the whole time. Would make for a nice surprise, no?

Rick
www.spacemodelsystems.com

It's an interesting question about the Bussard collectors and the new designers, maybe we could ask John Eaves about them since he seems to have worked on these new ships: http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/144817/star_trek_the_new_enterprise_revealed.html

 

[Red Ranger]

Mixed reaction, too, but I'm not horrified. It has elements of almost all the Enterprises we've seen, from the original NCC-1701 to the E. The nacelles are a tad odd, and seem to be a cross between the original and refit nacelles, and have almost the shape of the original engineering hull. Speaking of which, the lower section/engineering hull is a bit misshappen. But it makes sense that the nacelles would be different, as we've had two different versions of NCC-1701 anyway. Perhaps nacelles are the one part of the ship most often replaced. So in the final analysis, what's the difference if there's a third version of Kirk's ship? After all, how many versions of the Batmobile have we seen? -- RR

 

[Just_Bob]

My first reaction was a little mixed, but not nearly so much so as when I first saw a magazine photo of Picard's Enterprise - and I got to like that one real quickly.

And yeah - while this fits several of the descriptions I'd heard of what the ship would look like, it's much better than what I pictured based on those descriptions...

I first saw the "D" in an issue of Starlog and I wasn't at all impressed with the design...that negativity was soon washed away.

I like what I see here as I expected a more radical approach to the design. I'm happy and very content.

Madkoifish almost nailed it.

 

[shipfisher]

My first reaction was a little mixed, but not nearly so much so as when I first saw a magazine photo of Picard's Enterprise - and I got to like that one real quickly.

And yeah - while this fits several of the descriptions I'd heard of what the ship would look like, it's much better than what I pictured based on those descriptions...

I first saw the "D" in an issue of Starlog and I wasn't at all impressed with the design...that negativity was soon washed away.

I like what I see here as I expected a more radical approach to the design. I'm happy and very content.

Madkoifish almost nailed it.

Madkoifish did nail it. It's this boat that's somewhat off the mark, though I am warming slightly to it as my mind becomes more infected with the image.

I wasn't a big fan of the D either at first, so I suppose I'll have to see the flick before I can sign off on this one.

They had to go all practical and lose the concave ventral surface of the saucer didn't they? The original 1701 design incorporated a few victories of form over apparent function - that was one of them.

The shuttlebay door must be a fair bit smaller relative to the rest of the ship than on the original if it's at the same location - an indication of the larger size of the new version of the ship?

If anyone was near Matt Jeffries' final resting place, would vibrations consistent with a high rate of rotation be detected?

 

[Jim Steele]

It lacks any of the grace of the original and even more with the refit. It just looks so over worked and ridiculous. The nacelles are so ugly. There is no flow to the bottom of the ship at all! Yuck!!

This.

 

[M'Sharak]

Madkoifish almost nailed it.

Madkoifish did nail it.

Has Madkoifish's take been posted here anywhere, or can you give a link? I wouldn't mind taking a peek.

 

[DaveyNY]

Ok... old time TOS Trek geek here...
I guess I'll get used to it....

I can't really say I love it, like I did with the 1st Movie Refit right away...

But I don't hate it either.

My one obvious critique at this point puts me with the Folks who have posted so far and said that the distance between the front of the secondary hull and the interconnecting dorsal is much too large.

A smaller critique would be that the detail on the secondary hull seems 'lacking' as compared to the larger amount of detail on the primary hull.
This could of course be due to the way the "E" is lit in this particular shot and may not hold up when WE see more of Her.

But at this point, it just seems to add to the feeling of Her being... 'OFF' ... somehow.

The first time I saw a pic of The Motion Picture ENTERPRISE, it was as an artists rendering in STARLOG Magazine that made the refit look magnificent.
I think perhaps that helped to ease my fears of "Change" to something I loved dearly.
This particular pic of the JJ re-designed ENTERPRISE may not be as flattering as I would have liked to have seen for the first time, so I am reserving my complete judgment until I get to see more of Her.

 

[RedSpar]

Here you go M'Sharak:

Madkoifish's designs:

Also for your viewing pleasure, Vektor's designs (subtle changes yet very detailed)

 

[shipfisher]

Here you go M'Sharak:

Madkoifish's designs:

Also for your viewing pleasure, Vektor's designs (subtle changes yet very detailed)

Ohh!...sniff...what could have been.

 

[RedSpar]

Yup and what gets me is Paramount probably paid big bucks for this crapperprise, when we have great stuff and great artists like these who know Trek and have a feel for the look and the art of Trek.

*sigh*