Eric Doyle is that character. She says that she is going to see him.
Some things are now happening ... I was shocked when they killed Ando.
It was going for above average, but the ending pulled it up.
HEROES 3x05 "Angels and Monsters" Discuss and Grade
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Some things are now happening ... I was shocked when they killed Ando.
It was going for above average, but the ending pulled it up.
Cool. I'm kinda liking this "two volumes per season" idea. I wonder if NBC will split season three up into separate volumes when they release it on DVD. Mmm, cash-grabs...
They better not! Someone at NBC would have to die if they did that.
Season two was originally supposed to be two volumes but the writers strike sort of messed that up. It looks the writers want to try that format again.
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Assume Hiro freezes time and fakes Ando's death to get into Pinehurst (how he knew about Pinehurst or why he decided to join is anyone's guess). This perfectly sets up why Ando kills Hiro in the future; it's another set-up, perhaps for PastHiro's beneift to set him down this path.
There's no way either of them would truly kill the other unless it was an accident. And certanly not as callously as Hiro did tonight. Especially since in true comic book fashion, Hiro is now a master swordsman thanks to his father's two-hour seminar, so even if it was the real blade he could have easily stabbed him in a non-vital area.
There's no way either of them would truly kill the other unless it was an accident. And certanly not as callously as Hiro did tonight. Especially since in true comic book fashion, Hiro is now a master swordsman thanks to his father's two-hour seminar, so even if it was the real blade he could have easily stabbed him in a non-vital area.
It really looked to me like Hiro and Daphne were up to something in that scene. Since he can stop time, but can't stop her, they could have easily spoken with nobody else knowing. My guess is he had her run and get some fake blood packets.
If in the extremely unlikely event that Hiro actually did kill Ando, then it is the single most out of character moment in the whole series.
If in the extremely unlikely event that Hiro actually did kill Ando, then it is the single most out of character moment in the whole series.
I am thinking we haven't seen the last of the guy with the vortex powers. The law of conservation of energy means that everything that got sucked into his vortexes has to end up somewhere. Now that he has entered his own vortex, he should now find out where everything went. Assuming it is not a star or outer space, he likely wound up in a different dimension. Now, if that dimension was empty to begin with then the guy he sent there accidentally is likely dead from starvation. But if it isn't empty, the guy could still be alive and both he and the vortex guy could escape back to Earth by making a vortex back from the other side.
Come on...Ando isn't dead. Hiro did something that will all be explained. It's not that interesting of a twist.
I voted Average...and not Average for Heroes...Average for TV in general.
It's quite a mess at times...character inconsistencies, powers that seem to disappear when the plot is important (Sylar's hearing)...it's just...average.
Last week was better and I had hoped it would continue but...it's just...meh.
I miss Season 1.
I voted Average...and not Average for Heroes...Average for TV in general.
It's quite a mess at times...character inconsistencies, powers that seem to disappear when the plot is important (Sylar's hearing)...it's just...average.
Last week was better and I had hoped it would continue but...it's just...meh.
I miss Season 1.
Below Average.
I'm on the verge of dropping this show.
I was less impressed tonight than I have been the last few weeks when I scored the eps average.
So much happens to just move the plot along for the episode in play without regard to what our characters can or should be capable of doing/not doing.
Mohinder is now what...an Alien Queen? I swear I may watch next week to just see a facehugger.
I'm on the verge of dropping this show.
I was less impressed tonight than I have been the last few weeks when I scored the eps average.
So much happens to just move the plot along for the episode in play without regard to what our characters can or should be capable of doing/not doing.
Mohinder is now what...an Alien Queen? I swear I may watch next week to just see a facehugger.
That guy with the vortex power was cool. I hope he comes back.
Also, I agree that this season is starting to pick up. Some good twists in this episode, and questions are finally starting to be answered.
Also, I agree that this season is starting to pick up. Some good twists in this episode, and questions are finally starting to be answered.
Where did Hiro get the sword? I don't remember seeing it previously.
Could he have gone back to ancient Japan and grabbed the sword after Adam had been stabbed? Then back to present time, stab Ando and make him immortal?
I felt it was not a step down, but not an improvement. They are adding way too many characters to an already bloated character list. The idea of a "cantina" where supers just hang around for work is dangerous and can lead to bad guy who gets killed each week syndrome.
We need more Maya boob shots, not less or covered with phlegm. What are they thinking?
We need more Maya boob shots, not less or covered with phlegm. What are they thinking?
^ Knox found it hanging on the wall, handed it to Hiro, and said, "Here, impale your best friend so we know you can be trusted."
I figured out Linderman was Matt's dad after he showed up talking to Daphne. I thought, "Okay, who has the power to make people see things that aren't there?" And Matt's dad was the only person I could think of. So, I was expecting it to either be him or a new character with the same powers.
I was NOT expecting to see Arthur Petrelli (yay for avoiding spoilers!), so that was an intriguing surprise. I half-expected it to be Linderman on the bed with a telepath there to facilitate communication.
I was trying to decide during the vortex-guy-kill-Sylar scene if Sylar could actually hear them. The filming did make that ambiguous, but in the car afterwards, it was clear Sylar knew what HRG had intended to do.
Meredith is right. Puppet Master does have the most awful power. Imagine what acts you could be forced to physically perform while your will and soul cried out against it. *shudders* I'm very glad to see some new and interesting powers being introduced.
I think the writers are doing a pretty good job of making us question who's the hero and who's the villain this season. So far, there has been very little that I have questioned that couldn't have a logical explanation coming down the pipe. I'm willing to continue to sit back and enjoy the ride.
I figured out Linderman was Matt's dad after he showed up talking to Daphne. I thought, "Okay, who has the power to make people see things that aren't there?" And Matt's dad was the only person I could think of. So, I was expecting it to either be him or a new character with the same powers.
I was NOT expecting to see Arthur Petrelli (yay for avoiding spoilers!), so that was an intriguing surprise. I half-expected it to be Linderman on the bed with a telepath there to facilitate communication.
I was trying to decide during the vortex-guy-kill-Sylar scene if Sylar could actually hear them. The filming did make that ambiguous, but in the car afterwards, it was clear Sylar knew what HRG had intended to do.
Meredith is right. Puppet Master does have the most awful power. Imagine what acts you could be forced to physically perform while your will and soul cried out against it. *shudders* I'm very glad to see some new and interesting powers being introduced.
I think the writers are doing a pretty good job of making us question who's the hero and who's the villain this season. So far, there has been very little that I have questioned that couldn't have a logical explanation coming down the pipe. I'm willing to continue to sit back and enjoy the ride.
A Clockwork Lim
Lieutenant Commander
So you guys actually believed Adam's story about the "cantina," huh? Even though the only thing we saw even remotely close to someone with superpowers was a bartender that accidently knocked Hiro out. And that was the amazing power of "mediocre bar-jumping and average punch-swinging that anyone even mildly in shape can do" to boot.
I mean, Adam never lies. So it must really be what he says it was.
I mean, Adam never lies. So it must really be what he says it was.
When he made that cantina remark my mind instantly went to the Oblivion Bar which was a central location in the now recently cancelled Shadowpact book from DC comics.
It was a bar that only those who channeled the magic/mystic arts could find and they would hang out there.
It was a bar that only those who channeled the magic/mystic arts could find and they would hang out there.
where was the bar where Hiro stabbed Ando located? maybe this was Marty Parkman doing a mental whammy on Ando so they can get rid of him. Maybe he did one to Hiro prior to the incident & he's somewhere else?
You are correct! There is no bar where "supers" get together. It was a line fed to an idiot who gladly believed it.
No, I don't think Nathan was that busy. 
Better than the last episode, but not spectacular. It's good to see Andre Royo, and I liked his story line. The more "The Wire" alums they get on the show, the better.
If Mohinder lives in NYC, why the hell is he picking up drug dealers in the woods? Shouldn't there be plenty on street corners?
If Mohinder lives in NYC, why the hell is he picking up drug dealers in the woods? Shouldn't there be plenty on street corners?
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