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AICN Skewers "The Clone Wars"

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You might have noticed Harry's review was taken off the site yesterday for apparently breaching some embargo. Word is LFL has a critical embargo on this shitfest before the 15th. Anyway, another reviewer put his thoughts up a few hours ago and I thought it was a fun read.

Presented here before it disappears from AICN.



Does THE CLONE WARS suck as bad as the Prequels? Massawyrm says 'ROGER ROGER!'

A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, life was good and a movie named Star Wars rocked our god damned faces off. But those days are gone, in their place an endless stream of merchandising not meant for the average consumer, but the hyper specialized fan who still to this day must own everything and anything properly branded with the Star Wars logo. The inmates run the asylum now as Lucas long ago stopped listening to his soul as an artist - his heart as a storyteller - and has since begun listening to the slavering fanboys who cry themselves to sleep at night with their Darth Vader backpacks clutched close to their chests lest they separate it from their beating hearts. He's long since stopped working with the geniuses of old, replacing them with young, idealistic artists who revere him as some sort of living Man-God and long to carry on his legacy rather than forging their own. He's forgotten that the most important duty you have to your fanbase is not to give them what they want - but instead to give them what they REALLY want.

Do the fanboys REALLY want a bunch of scenes of characters whose destinies we already know fly through a series of dogfights so their pretty ships can go PEWPEWPEW against lifeless moronic droids so incompetent you question the tenacity of anyone that would put them into service let alone fight a war with an army of them? Do the fanboys REALLY want to spend the next 20 years of their lives arguing that the movies they love don't, in fact, suck the hair off of a nutless monkey? Do the fanboys REALLY want an animated television series not written for 30-year-old men, but easily amused 8 year olds on Saturday morning between bites of soggy Corn Puffs? Because that's what they're fucking getting with The Clone Wars.

This. Is. Shit-ty.

Everything that was wrong with the prequels is wrong again here. There's not much reason to dredge out all those complaints again. The Prequels aren't actually Star Wars movies. They're Fanfic. Bad fanfic that tries to include every element you love about Star Wars without actually using those elements the way they were intended. And while some might argue that it can't be fanfic if the original creator is involved, I would counter that the creator in question died a long time ago. In a galaxy far, far away. As an artist Lucas is entirely bankrupt, no longer able to conjure a single, tangible, original idea. And unlike other artists in his situation, he isn't able to properly recycle the ones he had to begin with either.

No, Star Wars is an ailing, dying beached whale of a property, too large to ignore but left too long in the sun to save. And the stench is unimaginable. So leave it to television writers to sit down and come up with a classic solution to lagging ratings. Their genius booster shot in the arm of suckdom? A plucky tween girl sidekick who keeps getting herself into trouble while being delightfully precocious and calling Anakin-Darth fucking Vader himself-Skyguy. Again. And again. And again. Every time this 14-year-old little monster opens her mouth to say something "witty" my jaw went slack and my eyes rolled into the back of my skull. She's unbearable, absolutely excruciating to watch, and yet she finds herself in almost every scene of the film. She's around so much I half expected her to pop up in scenes with the emperor or the Hutts, just stumbling into frame while saying something "cute" like "Oops, wrong door" or "This isn't the shuttle bay."

Seriously, the only way she could be any more annoying is if she added the word MEESA to the beginning of every sentence and BOMBAD to the end of it. You beginning to feel me? I get that they might be working towards a Luke Skywalker type transformation, but that doesn't replace the fact that A) her very presence makes me want to punch the person nearest me in the face repeatedly and B) she will not, ever, play a part in the mythology of the original films - or the fanfic prequel films - at all, unless Lucas goes back in to tinker with them AGAIN. So odds are she will meet a bitter untimely end sometime later in the series, like randomly slamming into an asteroid like the Han Solo clone from Shadows of the Empire. If and when that happens, I MIGHT tune in. If I don't just youtube the scene. Again. And again. And again.

Then there's the unending problem of putting characters in peril that we already know the fates of. Look, George. Having Anakin and Count Dooku have a dual ISN'T EXCITING. We already know what happens to Dooku. He died on screen YEARS AGO. We know he doesn't die at the hands of Skywalker. Nor does Skywalker get so much as a scratch from him. We know this already. So why devote so much time to it, unless you're completely out of ideas.

The party's over guys. The only ones left here are the folks who haven't realized it yet. I'm sure the Star wars fan forums are going to be aflutter with the revelations that Dooku once fought Anakin or that Anakin actually once went back to Tatooine, or that Jabba has an Uncle that - unlike other Hutts - sounds like a bad New Orleans piano player. But for the rest of us? This is just another episode in a long line of attempts to charge you for something you loved as a kid. I mean honestly, how much shit would we be giving Coppola if he had greenlit The Further Adventures of the Corleone's? Because that's what this is.

Will I be watching the series? After an hour and a half of being bored to tears? Not on your life. That path leads only to fear and anger, and we all know that once you start down that path, there is no turning back. If you WANT this to be good rather than KNOWING it will be good, odds are you're gonna be in the same boat as myself. This is no better than the Prequels. Scrub that hope out of your heart now.




I guess he didn't like it?
 
I have to give Lucas credit for one thing: his legal team is top notch.

NOTE: I have not read the review.
 
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Trust me - that is the fucking TRUTH!!!


Oh and here is the long-gone bloated ginger one's review, as copied by a poster into a TB.


I’ve never hated a STAR WARS film before. I have weathered Jar Jar and any number of Ewoks. I survived Hayden and a wooden Portman. I even accepted Jake Lloyd. I handled all that because it felt like STAR WARS. I can accept all of Lucas’ flaws, so long as at its heart it felt like Star Wars. I can deal with politics in Star Wars. I can deal with trade skirmishes in Star Wars. I can deal with musical numbers, breathing in the vacuum of space. Basically – so long as it feels like STAR WARS – I can watch any of it. Was I looking forward to STAR WARS: THE CLONE WARS (2008)? ******** A! I was dying.

After Genndy’s CLONE WARS – I felt that perhaps Lucas “got it” – and that this new animated series was taking a lead from Tartakovsky’s brilliant assembly of pieces. Genndy’s CLONE WARS got STAR WARS better than anyone has got it since Lawrence Kasdan and Irvin Kershner. Genndy took designs and characters that folks were dissatisfied with and made them cool. He did this by using and adapting the themes created by John Williams, the wholly perfect entity involved with Star Wars along with… the sound effects of Ben Burtt. He understood speed and motion – not just with action, but in editing. He understood classic film composition and iconography. And he knows what BADASS is. The folks behind this STAR WARS: THE CLONE WARS movie… you could tell, they looked at what Genndy did – but they didn’t understand any of it. There’s a ****load of battles and ***** going boom. There’s noise everywhere – fury everywhere… but none of it is directed.

The music by Kevin Kiner is criminally bad. Why they didn’t employ Paul Dinletir and James Venable is beyond me. No, no – let’s hire the composer of WALKER, TEXAS RANGER. Ahem. Now – I made excuses for this film as I was watching it. I don’t think you understand how much I love STAR WARS. Maybe you do, maybe you do too. Before the movie started I was firing myself up to go out after the film and buy that new $200 Hasbro Millenium Falcon. I really wanted to go buy it, and I wanted this movie to empower my brain to go through with that. Instead, I found myself at home – putting on Genndy’s THE CLONE WARS – to try and rebuild my passion – so I can go get that new Falcon. Instead – I’m thinking I’ll just be here at home enjoying this and that’ll be all I need.

Anyway – as I was watching the film, I was excusing the sloppy shots, the sloppy use of the Clone Troopers and Droids – undoing all the awesome work that Genndy had done – and the droids are silly again. The Clone Troopers are limp. And the Jedi – they’re at 25% power from the mind of Genndy. But I was accepting that. I figured that was Lucas dialing back so that the animated series wouldn’t overpower his features. Then they introduced Baby Jabba aka Rotta the Huttlet aka Stinky. At the point of this character’s introduction – it officially became, the worst character in the history of STAR WARS. If you hate George Lucas cutsiepoo bull**** – oooooooh boy. You’re gonna have a field day of venting and hatred directed at this unbelievably ****ing awful little ****. Oh – but wait… Little Stinky the Hutt isn’t the worst character in the history of STAR WARS… because Stinky got introduced earlier in the film. As much as I hated lil Stinky… I was weathering Stinky. I seriously was. But later there was a character of such immense **** – offensively bad. The character was so bad, so incredibly awful – that it was a slap to the face. It woke me out of my ****-accepting stupor and made me angry. SUDDENLY my “inner fanboy rage” was awoken. As I watched this terrifyingly awful character named Ziro the Hutt. A seemingly female Hutt – with tattoos and make-up that sounds like a racist take on a Black New Orleans Crack-Dealing Whore. Because this Hutt speaks ENGLISH – and it is many times worse than I’m actually describing. This character was actually too much for me. So bad that every flaw I was looking past, was now a road sign to inadequacy and mediocrity. All of a sudden my brain realized that Asajj Ventress’ voice no longer was acceptable – and sure enough – the amazing Grey DeLisle, who originally voiced the character back in 2003 – had been replaced by a Nika Futterman – and that voice was missed. The character didn’t have that snarling menace anymore. I realized that nothing in this animated film felt right. I felt time expanding. It seemed that the film was dragging – nevermind that lots of **** was firing all over the place – and stuff was going boom and things were being revealed. I just didn’t care because this wasn’t what I wanted. I hated the score, the animation, the shots, the characters and most of all the retarded ******** idiot story.

I hated the film.

HATED IT.

REALLY HATED IT.

Does this mean the whole Star Wars Animated Series is doomed? No – but it isn’t a good sign. So much of this is awful because of the Hutt plotlines and character. I also feel that Dave Filoni must be a hack. His work here is sloppy – and depending on writers and directing talent – individual episodes may be better. This film was several episodes all strung together – my prayer is that the individual episodes will be both great and awful – and we’ll discover which talents are responsible for each. That said – the audience did have light applause. My father liked it. My sister felt too much was going on. Me nephew really liked it. That said – Yoko was complaining right along with me. She thought it was **** too. I know Moriarty liked it. Wonder what Quint and Massawyrm thought. ****. I hated a STAR WARS. That ****ing sucks.
 
Sounds like a movie with zero depth or real excitement to it. But who knows, I'll probably end up seeing it, maybe in a few weeks or on DVD, but only if I have nothing to do (which is possible given my severe lack of a life most weekends :-P ).

I love the original trilogy, but mannn, just watching the Clone Wars trailer made me TIRED. meaning, the thought of getting myself excited for it was just TEDIOUS. Oh look, everybody's talking in that same monotone voice. Oh look, more senators standing around. oh look, roger roger robots. Oh look, Anakin Skywalker. Dooku. Council Yoda sitting around sending the jedi's on another mission. Coruscant again. zzzzzzzzzz. Gee maybe there will be scenes with Palpatine talkign in the senate or his office, and there will be CLEVER FORESHADOWING THAT HE'S THE EMPEROR PART SEVENTEEN!!! oh boy!

What really strikes me looking back at the prequels is, I enjoyed the latter two movies the first time I see them. Then I try to watch it again... and stuff like... the space dogfights? Boring. the land battles against the ROGER ROGER robots? OH MY GOD so boring. It's just a mess of un-distinctive CGI.

Given the choice, I'd rather watch The Dark Knight for the 4th time. In fact, I may!
 
^ I'll be seeing TDK this weekend, I doubt that I'll see Clone Wars.

Nope, still haven't read it.
 
Wow a review that trashes a new Star Wars movie? It's getting sad how some people get take such a delight in this. WHO THE FUCK CARES?
 
I look forward to both your reviews after you skip merrily out of the theatre on Friday, having basked in the goodness that is 21st century SW.
 
I look forward to both your reviews after you skip merrily out of the theatre on Friday, having basked in the goodness that is 21st century SW.

Sorry. I have better things to do than see a kids movie. I hope all the 8 year olds enjoy it, though.
 
I hope we get a scene where Anakin says something awkward like "..there's lots of purple lightning outside in that rainstorm" and Palpatine goes "I've always liked the way purple electric thunder looked, particularly coming out of one's hands!" then turns to the camera and winks. I can't wait for all that foreshadowing!!!!
 
Charming.

Do the fanboys REALLY want an animated television series not written for 30-year-old men, but easily amused 8 year olds on Saturday morning between bites of soggy Corn Puffs?
Would anyone expect something else?

Anyway, it'll be interesting to hear what reviewers think of this movie.
 
Charming.

Do the fanboys REALLY want an animated television series not written for 30-year-old men, but easily amused 8 year olds on Saturday morning between bites of soggy Corn Puffs?
Would anyone expect something else?

Anyway, it'll be interesting to hear what reviewers think of this movie.

LOL--intentional or not, that is a pretty amusing dig at aicn.
 
LOL--intentional or not, that is a pretty amusing dig at aicn.
Drat! I've been exposed. :cool:

I'm not the biggest fan of AICN, and it's probably due to their tendency to lather reviews like these with a great deal of histrionics - though I'll concede they do make their points well as to why, precisely, the film sucks.
 
AICN is a site run by fanboys. Reading the talkbalks also make you lose half of your IQ. :lol:
 
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