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Lingering Questions from 'The Dark Knight'...

I though you were a child of the Eighties, man. ;)

It's been ages since I've seen any of those movies, and a couple of them I've never seen and The Dead Zone I've never seen either.

Anthony Michael Hall? Is so low on my radar he's practically Steve Gutenberg.

Although, him, I'd very like recognize.
 
Tried to resolve the numbers of Two Face's killing spree in second viewing. It still doesn't really make much sense. The first viewing, I only thought he killed 2 people.

1: He is shown killing Wuertz

2: He is shown killing Maroni's driver

3: The seat belt is a device to show Maroni probably dies in the crash

4: Ramirez. Either he lied about the coin toss (maybe someone who actually saw the coin can correct me), or reflipped for a new event that was cut out of the film. Since she is responsible for Rachel, there is no way he was going to leave without killing her. "Live to fight another day". By punching her, could basically be starting a new fight with her (a stretch). But, Gordon did say Dent killed two cops. These are the two cops Dent defames at the beginning of the movie. It has to be Wuertz AND Ramirez no matter how it went down with her. Plus, if she lived the whole cover story would fall apart.

5: Can't figure it out.

Seeing it a second time today I have an idea on who number 5 might be. Gordon says that five people are dead two of which are cops. He does not say that Harvey Dent/Two Face killed five people. So perhaps he is including Dent himself in that number. Remember the context of that number. Those are the deaths that Batman will be blamed for. They will claim that Batman killed Harvey Dent.

Maybe he was being blamed for the deaths of the cops who were guarding him, that Joker killed? That's the only thing that could make sense.
 
Tried to resolve the numbers of Two Face's killing spree in second viewing. It still doesn't really make much sense. The first viewing, I only thought he killed 2 people.

1: He is shown killing Wuertz

2: He is shown killing Maroni's driver

3: The seat belt is a device to show Maroni probably dies in the crash

4: Ramirez. Either he lied about the coin toss (maybe someone who actually saw the coin can correct me), or reflipped for a new event that was cut out of the film. Since she is responsible for Rachel, there is no way he was going to leave without killing her. "Live to fight another day". By punching her, could basically be starting a new fight with her (a stretch). But, Gordon did say Dent killed two cops. These are the two cops Dent defames at the beginning of the movie. It has to be Wuertz AND Ramirez no matter how it went down with her. Plus, if she lived the whole cover story would fall apart.

5: Can't figure it out.

Seeing it a second time today I have an idea on who number 5 might be. Gordon says that five people are dead two of which are cops. He does not say that Harvey Dent/Two Face killed five people. So perhaps he is including Dent himself in that number. Remember the context of that number. Those are the deaths that Batman will be blamed for. They will claim that Batman killed Harvey Dent.

Maybe he was being blamed for the deaths of the cops who were guarding him, that Joker killed? That's the only thing that could make sense.
But that would bring the cop count to 3 including Wuertz.
 
Ok.... WHAT THE HECK>>>

Ok, when Maroni tells Gordon that he can tell him where the joker is.. It cuts.. Where does he lead Gordon and why???
 
Re: Ok.... WHAT THE HECK>>>

Ok, when Maroni tells Gordon that he can tell him where the joker is.. It cuts.. Where does he lead Gordon and why???

Gordon was talking to his team, preparing to move in on the Joker, at MCU when The Joker makes his announcement about blowing up a hospital forcing Gordon and the police to re-prioritize their efforts.
 
Question...wouldn't the death of Lau, the chief witness, be reason enough to dismiss the case against the mob?
 
Question...wouldn't the death of Lau, the chief witness, be reason enough to dismiss the case against the mob?

They had already gotten his statements.

But did he testify?

Gordon has a line near the end where he says everything has fallen apart.

Everything has fallen apart because Dent's reputation is trashed and his repuation is critical to getting their work done. If what he did got out it'd but his credibility into question, releasing the mafia. That's why Batman "sacraficed" himself -so that Dent's repuation could stand not cause all of their work to be undone.

As for Lau and him testifying. I'm not sure and I've not enough legal know-how to know what happens when your witness makes statements and he's killed by those he's testifying against before he can testify. What happens to his statements and deposition? Also the judge who agreed to the absurd number of charges dies so that's another wrench in the plan.

But, strictly from what we're given in the movie, Gordon believes Dent's tarnished reputation will ruin their plans and un-do all of their work. So Gordon, in the context of the universe of the movie, believes that all of their plans can still work so long as Dent's reputation was maintained. That's why Batman took the blame for the deaths of the "5" people. It keeps Dent's reputation clean so their plans can work.

If their plans couldn't work if Dent is clean or not then Bat's sacrafice means nothing -other than redeeming himself in his mind for killing.
 
Question: I know that Batman is a super ninja, but how did he manage to bend the barrel of the rifle in the beginning. That's more Superman style.
 
It looked like Batman has some sort of Hydraulic clamp attached to his arm. He used it to open the van like a can of vegetables. When Scarecrow hugged the walls of the parking ramp, it looked like batman destroyed/detached it.
 
Question: I know that Batman is a super ninja, but how did he manage to bend the barrel of the rifle in the beginning. That's more Superman style.

He had some-kind-of hydraulic/multifunction tool built into his arm/glove.

Did you not hear the mechancial whirr?
 
I really liked the parking garage sequence. I thought the fake Batmen was an awesome reintroduction to the real Batman.
 
"The difference is I'm not wearing hockey pants." :D

Actually he said "hockey pads" as that's what the fakers were wearing as "armor."

But with Bale's growly over-blown voice I thought it was "pants" too but realized "hockey pants" didn't make any sense.
 
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