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If it wasn't a prequel...

How about a movie (or new series) that is not a prequel but goes back to the original idea. A new starship (new class) sent out to explore the farthest reaches of the galaxy. A new five year mission, away from star bases and not in constant contact with Starfleet or other ships. No, not Voyager, because that wasn't voluntary and they were focused on getting back. A new trek heading outward. Far outward.
 
It would probably have to be an original movie or series, or a complete remake if it weren't a prequel.
 
I can't really see how they could do anything but a prequel. There are so
many more stories to tell in the past. To plunk a bunch of characters on a ship in the 25th century or whatever would be redundant and would almost have to draw on a whole bunch of lore from all the Trek series.

Other stories I would have liked to have seen:

Enterprise Era: Earth/Romulan war and the founding of the Federation.

Pre TOS: First voyages of the 1701 with Captain April.
Pre TOS: The Voyages of Captain Pike
 
As much as I've read people bemoaning the whole prequel premise, I don't think there was much of a choice. I find it hard to believe that any other Star Trek project would be capable of generate this much excitement and interest, even if some of that is intermingled with fear and trepidation. Had it not been for this prequel idea, I think the best we could have hoped for was seeing the Star Trek concept dusted off years later for another TV series attempt, especially if the Star Wars TV series is popular.
 
I still say (I've said it on other forums) that a return to TOS could work. Not a reworking or a reimagining but a return. The Enterprise, the uniforms, etc. just the same. Maybe a little tweaking so it didn't look like a cheaply produced TV show but I think the nostalgia factor would be huge.
 
I still say (I've said it on other forums) that a return to TOS could work. Not a reworking or a reimagining but a return. The Enterprise, the uniforms, etc. just the same. Maybe a little tweaking so it didn't look like a cheaply produced TV show but I think the nostalgia factor would be huge.
Only for the old die-hard fans, I don't think anyone else wants that much nostalgia. It is like saying, "We want a whole new ST, but don't change anything!"
"Oh yeah, and make it so we don't notice that the original actors are either 40 years older or dead." It just wouldn't work, so either do a re-make/re-boot/re-____, or take it in a new direction. Either way somebody is going to complain. Personally I'm happy with what I've read and seen so far. :vulcan:
 
I still say (I've said it on other forums) that a return to TOS could work. Not a reworking or a reimagining but a return. The Enterprise, the uniforms, etc. just the same. Maybe a little tweaking so it didn't look like a cheaply produced TV show but I think the nostalgia factor would be huge.
Only for the old die-hard fans, I don't think anyone else wants that much nostalgia. It is like saying, "We want a whole new ST, but don't change anything!"
"Oh yeah, and make it so we don't notice that the original actors are either 40 years older or dead." It just wouldn't work, so either do a re-make/re-boot/re-____, or take it in a new direction. Either way somebody is going to complain. Personally I'm happy with what I've read and seen so far. :vulcan:


Not with old actors, new, young actors but the same Trek universe. It's been 44 years since TOS was first on TV. I think it could work (at least I would like to see it).
 
What they should have done, or more correctly should do is a movie with characters from TNG, DS9 and Voyager.

Together, those three shows hve a lot of fans and therefore a movie with characters from those series would have a chance to attract most of those fans.

At the same time, they could introduce a new crew which would be the main characters in an upcoming series, a series where some of the old favorites from TNG , DS9 and Voyager would show up from time to time.

What the movie and series would be about? A lot of possibilities here. OK, the Borg plot mah have run its course but there are other species which could provide some threat. Species 8472, the Kelvans, Cardassians out for revenge, the Dominion or something totally new.

As for the upcoming movie, I have my doubts about it.

Most of the TOS fans will not accept other actors than Shatner, Nemoy and the other "legends" for portraying their old favorites and most fans of the other shows seems uninterested. I guess that most of the fans (including me) will watch it only because it's Star Trek.

TOS was a wonderful series with some of the best characters ever created. But let it rest in peace and let us remember it as it was. The new movie looks like just a desperate attempt to milk the last possible profit out of TOS.

Very well said, my thoughts exactly!

The only thing that saves STXI for me is the fact that Leonard Nimoy's Spock will be there, so there is at least one connection to the original shows.
 
I would've liked to see Harry Kim transfer to the Enterprise to take over Ops after Data was blown to bits...And promote him already! I think both Beverly and Geordi were supposed to have left the Enterprise after the movie too...Bashir as the Enterprise CMO? B'elanna as Chief Engineer? As for plot? I dunno...

Anyone?
 
I would've liked to see Harry Kim transfer to the Enterprise to take over Ops after Data was blown to bits...And promote him already! I think both Beverly and Geordi were supposed to have left the Enterprise after the movie too...Bashir as the Enterprise CMO? B'elanna as Chief Engineer?
Wow, that's gotta be a small universe. :vulcan:
 
I would've liked to see Harry Kim transfer to the Enterprise to take over Ops after Data was blown to bits...And promote him already! I think both Beverly and Geordi were supposed to have left the Enterprise after the movie too...Bashir as the Enterprise CMO? B'elanna as Chief Engineer?
Wow, that's gotta be a small universe. :vulcan:
But it's always been a small universe. How many times - across all the series - were Our Heroes the only ones close enough to deal with the crisis of the week? Sometimes it seemed the Enterprise was the only ship in all of Starfleet - or at least, the only one anything happened to. :lol:
 
I would've liked to see Harry Kim transfer to the Enterprise to take over Ops after Data was blown to bits...And promote him already! I think both Beverly and Geordi were supposed to have left the Enterprise after the movie too...Bashir as the Enterprise CMO? B'elanna as Chief Engineer?
Wow, that's gotta be a small universe. :vulcan:
But it's always been a small universe. How many times - across all the series - were Our Heroes the only ones close enough to deal with the crisis of the week? Sometimes it seemed the Enterprise was the only ship in all of Starfleet - or at least, the only one anything happened to. :lol:
True, but in those instances it was done to serve the story not just to please the fanboys. ;)
 
A re-casting of TOS featuring the most recognizable aspects of Star Trek - Kirk, Spock, Enterprise - is so obviously the right way to re-launch the franchise that I can't really think of what would be in second place.

I guess you could do a post-Dominion-War movie without having to explain too much about the existing situation and characters as long as it was action-oriented enough to steamroller over any questions that might be raised in the audience's mind.

I'll go one further: How about an intergalactic game show conducted by a bored Q?

A reality show parody with Q trying to see if there's anything humans won't do for money? Sounds like a good idea for Boldly Going Nowhere.
 
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Wow, that's gotta be a small universe. :vulcan:
But it's always been a small universe. How many times - across all the series - were Our Heroes the only ones close enough to deal with the crisis of the week? Sometimes it seemed the Enterprise was the only ship in all of Starfleet - or at least, the only one anything happened to. :lol:
"We're counting on you to succeed, Jim. You're the only ship we've got

A) in the sector
B) in the quadrant
C) in the parsec
D) ...does anyone even know what a parsec is?
E) with a pair of whales canned in transparent aluminum.
F) Oh, no! Klingons are attacking! We--*pzzzt!*"
True, but in those instances it was done to serve the story not just to please the fanboys. ;)

Really, though, isn't it both? It's the same thing as in the old Westerns with Roy Rogers and Gabby Hayes or the Lone Ranger and Tonto saving the day against ridiculously impossible odds: yeah, you've got to tell a good story, but our heroes are just that good, and it's entertaining because of it.
 
What they should have done, or more correctly should do is a movie with characters from TNG, DS9 and Voyager.
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But let it rest in peace and let us remember it as it was. The new movie looks like just a desperate attempt to milk the last possible profit out of TOS.
...or TNG or DS9 or Voyager. Think about it. Your idea is the same as the idea you seem to hate. A re-hash of a show that has already been done.
:vulcan: That is not logical. :vulcan:
To paraphrase... Damn the canon, full speed ahead... with the new movie. I'm excited about seeing it.

Not exactly. The movie I propose would have the original actors and also be a continuation of the events in DS9, Voyager and the movie "Nemesis". It could also serve as launchpad for a new series with new characters.

I do think that a movie which continues from the events in TNG, DS9 and Voyager with original actors would have a better chance to attract viewers than a TOS remake with new actors which the TOS fans will find it hard to relate to.
 
I think most fans would like a movie set after Nemesis with a few characters from the past shows. It makes more sense to go into the future where you don't have to worry about tripping over previously established facts than to go inot the past where you do have to worry about not contradicting things that have already been established.

and people say that the movie shouldn't be made for the "fanboys" well who else is going to see it? Star Trek will always be seen as "geeky" it will never be mainstream. Do you honestly think your average teenager (the target audience for a movie) is going to turn to his friends and say "hey guys lets go see that new Star Trek movie" no of course not. The "fanboys" are the ones who will see the movie in theaters more than once, who will buy all the merchanise, and the dvd and the special edition dvd, and buy all the collectibles and go to conventions and so on. It's the "fanboys" that have kept Star Trek alive for the past 40 years
 
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