Yoda lived until 900 y/o.
So 50/900 ≈ 5.55…% of their life span.
Assuming a average Male Human Life-Span of 80 y/o & similiar linear aging to our human species, 5.55…% would be the equivalent of a 4.44… y/o Human child.
So 50/900 ≈ 5.55…% of their life span.
Assuming a average Male Human Life-Span of 80 y/o & similiar linear aging to our human species, 5.55…% would be the equivalent of a 4.44… y/o Human child.
Is it inconsistency, though? He's obviously young for his species. But he's also seemingly lived the overwhelming majority of that time in isolation and after witnessing some seriously traumatic events.
I think it would be perfectly fair if he's emotionally and intellectually underdeveloped for his age, given his circumstances. The question will be, now that he's in a more stable and social environment, will he begin to develop social and language skills more rapidly.
I expect that they are just playing him as basically an infant, if just because it's simpler. But I would absolutely buy the notion that he just never got the chance to learn any of the social, emotional and intellectual skills that an older child should have.
Well, I never actually made it the theater today, but I managed a complete binge watch of season one of the show so that's something.
But my point is that I don't buy the idea that it's just proportional to his species's lifespan. If he's conscious and capable of learning at all, then there's no way he could have 50 years of life experience and not have gained anything from it. Someone who's lived through 50 years' worth of events, no matter how childlike they are in physiology, is going to have a hell of a lot more actual experience than a 30-year-old human, say. I mean, isn't that the whole point of Yoda being 8-900 years old, that he's got more than 10 times as much accumulated life experience and wisdom as a human? If his species somehow learns at 1/10 the rate, then what's the point of even giving them a long lifespan if it's just going to cancel out?
(I have the same problem with "Miri" in Star Trek. Okay, so these kids' physical aging has been slowed by the mutant virus, but they're still 300 years old and should therefore have gained a hell of a lot of maturity through accumulated experience, so it makes no sense for them to still be acting like preteens. Sure, the brain doesn't fully mature until the 20s, but life experience matters. I've known teenagers in my time who were more mature than a lot of adults.)
Granted, there is scientific research suggesting that both maturation rate and longevity are proportional to the complexity of the brain, because it takes longer to grow a more complex brain to maturity, and because a brain with more cortical neurons can remain viable longer as they gradually wear out. So maybe the idea is that Yoda-oids (Whills?) mature more slowly because they have much more complex brains. But I think Ahsoka told Din, as Xerxes82 mentioned, that Grogu's development is actually arrested for his physiological age because of his psychological trauma during the Jedi purge.
Not necessarily. In different species, the various stages of life constitute different percentages of their lifespans. For instance, elephants gestate more than twice as long as humans and their “baby” stage (before being weaned) can last 5-10 years, far longer than ours, but they reach maturity around the same age as us, c. 18, and have about the same overall life expectancy, 60-80 years. Parrots reach sexual maturity in just 1-4 years but can live 80-90 years or more. So it’s pointless to even try to make analogies between species’ life cycles.
This is even more the case in fiction. Vulcans are known to live over 200 years, but Spock matured to adulthood at the same rate as a human. And since Spock and T'Pring are agemates, given that they were betrothed at 7, we know this applies to full Vulcans as well as half-Vulcans. Also, Alexander Rozhenko aged in soap-opera time and went from conception to adulthood in only 8 years, but Kor, Koloth, and Kang lived to between 100-150 if Odo's estimate was accurate.
After all, aging is not a monolithic process. Maturation and senescence are opposite processes -- in the former, cell growth dominates over cell decay, and in the latter, decay dominates over growth, with adulthood being the period in the middle where they're balanced. So it stands to reason that there'd be no direct correlation between the speed at which a species grows up and the speed at which it grows old.
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Fair enough.
It was OK. Looks great on the big screen but feels small storywise. No high stakes. Definitely switches gears midway through and changes to another story that was less interesting to me. No big surprises too. After 7 years of no Star Wars movies they could do better...
But man did people go crazy for merch in the lobby after the movie. Cleared shelves out in seconds.
There is a fantastic homage to episode 4 if anyone caught it. I didn't realize it until the last minute when they pulled back and showed the whole thing.
But man did people go crazy for merch in the lobby after the movie. Cleared shelves out in seconds.
There is a fantastic homage to episode 4 if anyone caught it. I didn't realize it until the last minute when they pulled back and showed the whole thing.
It was a very fun film, better than the sequels and solo and had a more likeable cast than Rogue One.
Yoda died at 900. Grogu's a kid at 50. Aside from the fact that human 5 year olds can talk, I assume that Grogu's the equivalent of 5. Yoda was the equivalent of 90 in the OT then. Yeah he said he trained Jedi for 800 years meaning he was knighted at 100 but if he was rounding and maybe was knighted at 150, then he could've been the equivalent of a 15 year old prodigy knight (one of who features in the High Republic books).
Again, I just can't buy that a long-lived species's maturation works that way. Yes, Yoda's long-lived, but he obviously experiences the passage of time the same way as the people around him, and can carry on conversations, perform actions, and react to events at a normal pace. It's not like he's living under time dilation, or like he somehow doesn't notice 90% of the things that happen around him on a given day. His accumulation of day-to-day life experiences goes at the same pace as everyone else's. So after 150 years, he would've had 150 years' worth of lived experience and learning opportunities, not just 15. So even if he's the physiological equivalent of a teenager, mentally he'd still be a seasoned veteran with more experience and accumulated wisdom than a centenarian human.
And of course, we have precisely the opposite problem with Kes, in VOY.
As to the "onlies" from "Miri," they might have 300 years of accumulated knowledge and wisdom, but between a lack of adult guidance, and their hormonal activity, they might still be emotionally children.
But I, too, have encountered teens who had emotional maturity beyond their years (think Greta Thunberg and Malala Yousafzai), and adults who were still children, emotionally (one such individual is the current resident of a certain rather large white house).
As to the "onlies" from "Miri," they might have 300 years of accumulated knowledge and wisdom, but between a lack of adult guidance, and their hormonal activity, they might still be emotionally children.
But I, too, have encountered teens who had emotional maturity beyond their years (think Greta Thunberg and Malala Yousafzai), and adults who were still children, emotionally (one such individual is the current resident of a certain rather large white house).
Do you mean the
dejarik match?
I caught that too
Okay, and? Regardless of what you, personally, find plausible he's coded as a baby within the text and having a baby in a shootout makes said shootout feel toothless.
I had no idea what he meant at first. Then they come out and you're like "oh."
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Yup!
True. I always figured that, as a telepathic species, the mothers must pass down knowledge to their children in the womb.
Even so, they still would've needed to learn the skills and responsibility just to survive that long, since there was nobody else to take care of them. If they were incapable of that, they would've died out ages before. I mean, what did they eat for 300 years? They would've had to learn how to farm, how to repair buildings and equipment, how to deal with medical crises, etc. They wouldn't just be a bunch of delinquents playing games all day. Okay, presumably the older kids who took care of the younger ones would've mostly died out over time as they gradually reached puberty, caught the disease, and died. But you'd think at least the older kids like Miri and Jahn would've been taking care of the younger kids for long enough that they'd psychologically be more like parents than children.
And "emotionally children" is not an absolute. There have been many societies throughout history where teenagers have been expected to take on what we consider adult responsibilities. Alexander the Great was leading armies at 16. The earlier that responsibilities are thrust on children, the faster they have to grow up emotionally and mentally.
I assume
the 1970s-style targeting screens used by the Republic squadron at the end
Definitely. That's a more obvious one and I think it's cropped up in other movies or series. I'm sure it must have been in Rogue One.
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