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News Christopher Nolan's The Odyssey

None of those women look especially Greek to me.
I personally feel that the Helen character would likely have been served better by casting someone of a more Mediterranean variety. But what to I know?
Certainly which would be extended with the rest of the Greek characters. But I'll take what we got here.

As for the historical accuracy of the armor and vessels used, Hollywood frequently seems to sacrifice accuracy for "kewl factor". In the 1981 film Excalibur, for example, Gabriel Byrne's Uther Pendragon, Morgana and a number of other characters wore full plate armor. Uther was said to have lived around the 5th or 6th century, but plate armor didn't come into use by soldiers and knights until around 13th to 14th century. It's farby* and suspension of disbelief is necessary if one happens to know a little about history when watching these things.


* "Farb" (noun) and "farby" (adjective) is a (bit of a pejorative) term used in historical reenacting/living history circles towards newer members of units who have inappropriately modern-looking uniforms and/or equipment. This usually happens when it's hard to find something that looks good/right or is too expensive. The term "farb" comes from the longer sentence, "Far be it for me to tell you, son, that what you're wearing is NOT period-correct." God help them if they whip out a cell phone to take pictures in the middle of a tactical demonstration with spectators. :ouch:
A fair response although I'm still willing to give Nolan leeway for why he used what he did and not simply for the "cool" factor.

But thank you for the background on farby. I think I've heard that term before but I had no idea where it came from.

But that wouldn't have pissed off the people they wanted to piss off.
:rolleyes:

I highly doubt Nolan gives one fig about trolling people.
 
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Last night's 60 Minutes interview with Nolan:

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Not just a profile of the film itself but also Nolan's career and his method of filmmaking. Along with the obvious discussion about IMAX (more below), Nolan talks at length about how sees himself as a director (a stand-in for the audience) and how he produces films to make people feel like they're part of the story itself.

In addition to the main interview, the show also released an Overtime segment that covered the IMAX process:

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What's especially cool to see here is the editing process, from the splicing to the color correction to the final assembly. Nolan also talked about why he finds producing movies on film as oppose to digital so vital is because film (and especially IMAX) is the closest analog the human eye.

I think this is especially important to keep in mind when people complain about the color in Nolan's films. As a photographer myself, I know firsthand about trying to capture the real world in imagery as oppose to through heightened or drained colors. I feel like some people have gotten so accustomed to how digital films present colors that they're taken aback when film presents natural color in this manner.
 
It is really interesting how nobody comments on Matt Damon's ethnicity (his heritage being English, Scottish, Finnish and Swedish) and suitability to play an Ancient Greek...
But... but... Matt Damon!!!

No, I agree with you. Personally I think he's a moron and it amazes me how popular he is. He's barely anything without the other side of his brain (Ben Affleck) being cast in a film with him.
 
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What's especially cool to see here is the editing process, from the splicing to the color correction to the final assembly. Nolan also talked about why he finds producing movies on film as oppose to digital so vital is because film (and especially IMAX) is the closest analog the human eye.

I think this is especially important to keep in mind when people complain about the color in Nolan's films. As a photographer myself, I know firsthand about trying to capture the real world in imagery as oppose to through heightened or drained colors. I feel like some people have gotten so accustomed to how digital films present colors that they're taken aback when film presents natural color in this manner.
That is remarkable.

This just gets more and more exciting.
 
It is really interesting how nobody comments on Matt Damon's ethnicity (his heritage being English, Scottish, Finnish and Swedish) and suitability to play an Ancient Greek...
He's not.

Same with Brad Pitt.

But, it's Hollywood and pretty means more or something :rolleyes:
 
Christopher Nolan needs his star power to put people in the seats given his presumably high budget, and he needs enough diversity to qualify the film for an Oscar. I only learned this because Musk was complaining about it.


Of course, this doesn't put Greek actors into the roles.

I get Great Wall with Matt Damon vibes. Of course, it should be better in theory.

I have a hold at the library for the Emily Wilson translation, which I want to read later this year.
 
I object to Zendaya as Athena as I can prove she was never in the Olympics.

You joke but people whined about her casting, too.

It is really interesting how nobody comments on Matt Damon's ethnicity (his heritage being English, Scottish, Finnish and Swedish) and suitability to play an Ancient Greek...
At this point, I've given up on ever seeing accurate casting in these kind of movies, no matter if it makes sense or not they're always going to go for the biggest names they can get. But I will admit, in this case I'm a huge fan of almost all of the actors in this, so I'm willing to ignore the issues and just enjoy seeing such an awesome cast in the movie.
 
One good example was casting Benedict Cumberbatch as Khan in STID. We saw the whitest of straight white guys playing a Sikh, who was originally played by an Hispanic.

Vitriol over the white-washing of such an iconic ethnic character was quite warranted and didn't go far enough, IMO.
I give the comics props for trying to fix this by saying Marcus forced Khan to get plastic surgery to change his face.

Beyond that, I've always thought it would've been more interesting if Cumberbatch had been playing one of Khan's henchmen named John Harrison the whole time and we get a reveal at the end of the film that Montalban's Khan is still locked in one of the cryo-chambers.
 
I give the comics props for trying to fix this by saying Marcus forced Khan to get plastic surgery to change his face.

Beyond that, I've always thought it would've been more interesting if Cumberbatch had been playing one of Khan's henchmen named John Harrison the whole time and we get a reveal at the end of the film that Montalban's Khan is still locked in one of the cryo-chambers.
Of my complaints about that film that is lower down but a Winter Soldieresque plot would have been better than Khan. But Cumberbatch plays Khan well.

Back on topic, Armand Assante was the best Odysseus.
 
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