^ The vitriolic destestation that a very tiny minority have for the Sequel Trilogy is one of the things that influenced a previous statement of mine that no-one hates a property more than those who purport to be fans of said property.
There's nothing hyperbolic or vitriolic involved in stating the fact -- the fact -- that the Sequel Trilogy was 80% garbage. I can say without doubt or hesitation that JJ Abrams directed my two least favorite movies in my two favorite franchises and it's not even a competition. And I say this is someone who enjoyed The Acolyte and has rewatched Section 31 more than I will ever revisit the sequel trilogy.
Well, of course if you're invested in something that then disappoints you you're going to be more upset about it than someone who didn't have the initial level of investment.
One question about the plan is, what would Palpatine do with Count Dooku if Maul had not needed to engage Jedi just yet? No encounter with Maul and the Jedi would still be unaware of the return of the Sith.
So does he keep Maul as his Darth and just had Dooku do thing related to the Clone Army and the rise of the Separatists? Maybe he would still have Maul organize the Underworld, attempt to swing or decapitated the Hutts before the war starts? There can only be two Sith. Would Maul be demoted, or would he and Dooku need to fight to see who gets to be the apprentice? Or would Dooku be an associate, since he didn't seem to be all in the Sith ideals, but more for radical reform of the Jedi.
So does he keep Maul as his Darth and just had Dooku do thing related to the Clone Army and the rise of the Separatists? Maybe he would still have Maul organize the Underworld, attempt to swing or decapitated the Hutts before the war starts? There can only be two Sith. Would Maul be demoted, or would he and Dooku need to fight to see who gets to be the apprentice? Or would Dooku be an associate, since he didn't seem to be all in the Sith ideals, but more for radical reform of the Jedi.
Anger is easier.
And I'm feeling less enthused by the ST over time but it's still suitably mythic with how Lucas framed it with his films.
Dooku as a political idealist is just as useful.
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Dooku was too old, and Palatine is too racist to put up with a non human apprentice. Remember these people are not his heir, they're his new flesh suit.
Which means that he knew about Anikan, who became unsuable as a flesh suit after Mustafar.
Either Palpatine secured some weirdly weighted dominoes placed to fall just right, or Qui-Gon Jin was his man on the inside.
Also:
Naboo was the field test for the battle droids that were going to be needed by the Separatists in the upcoming Clone Wars.
Naboo was the field test for the battle droids that were going to be needed by the Separatists in the upcoming Clone Wars.
Plan was to invade and either get Amidala to sign the treaty (duress or no) up to and including having her killed, getting the no confidence vote on Valorum and get Palpatine the sympathy vote to be elected Chancellor.
Darth Plagueis book said he was then supposed to nominate Darth Plagueis appointed as co-chancellor. Then they would engineer the Clone Wars (they had already expiremented with Yinchorri, etc but proved unsuitable except as a means to get the Senate to authorize the Trade Federation ships being armed since there weren't enough Jedi to cover all the trade routes).
Darth Plagueis book said he was then supposed to nominate Darth Plagueis appointed as co-chancellor. Then they would engineer the Clone Wars (they had already expiremented with Yinchorri, etc but proved unsuitable except as a means to get the Senate to authorize the Trade Federation ships being armed since there weren't enough Jedi to cover all the trade routes).
I think Palpatine would have kept Naboo under tight control. If for no other reason than to keep his past under wraps. I don’t think he would have wanted any one finding dirt on him. Not that it would have mattered as he had the power and control to make sure no-one could cause any problems for him.
In both Legends and Canon, Panaka, the Queen's head of security in Episode 1, became the Moff of the sector Naboo is in.
In Canon he was assassinated by Saw Gerrera's partisans 3 years before ANH. In Legends once the New Republic gained control of that sector, he was replaced by a Gungan Senator.
The Clone Wars CG series almost retconned his legends fate, he was going to be killed by Grievous in the episode "Destroy Malevolence", but they didn't have the time to create a new character model, so his appearance was cut from the story.
In Canon he was assassinated by Saw Gerrera's partisans 3 years before ANH. In Legends once the New Republic gained control of that sector, he was replaced by a Gungan Senator.
The Clone Wars CG series almost retconned his legends fate, he was going to be killed by Grievous in the episode "Destroy Malevolence", but they didn't have the time to create a new character model, so his appearance was cut from the story.
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This is pretty much what I think. We also have to keep in mind that Order 66 was imbedded in the Clone troopers DNA about ten years before the Clone wars even started. So the plan has always been for the Republic to have an army that would turn on the Jedi when the timing was right.
Not quite, but they were genetically modified to be more obedient and they had the control chips.
Just checked and you are right.
I misremembered the episode. Though I would argue the obedience was more to Darth Sideous as their response to the order was always "It will be done my lord"
The main point stands that having the Republic troopers turn on the jedi had been planned a decade in advance.
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He might have if it was the will of the Force /s
That the story be created it will /yoda
Order 66 was the ultimate contingency to eliminate the Jedi, and would likely have been used no matter the outcome of the war. Imagine if the Seperatists had gained the upper hand and the Republic lines were collapsing; the Jedi forming a desperate defense, then when they're on the verge of turing things around . . . the Clones turn of them, and then it's absolute chaos.
When the dust settles, what's left of the Clone army would have defected to the Separatist Alliance, loyal to Lord Sidious. The whole thing could be spun as a Clone rebellion against their enslavement by the Jedi and the Republic. The Separatist public would certainly be sympathetic to the notion of a people throwing off such oppression.
A list of all the "orders" that had been programed into the clone trooper's noggins, where order 65 was itemized as "Secure the supreme Chancellor and remove him from power".
My read there is, if the Separatists won the clone wars, then Palpatine was prepared to lead the galaxy from the Separatist throne world as Sideous?