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Mass Market Paperbacks

I still remember on of my favourite bookshops that at the time had copies of almost every official trek book(novel wise - back in the numbered days), and despite being several six foot tall shelves full, just for Trek, I'd say it was a tiny portion of the novels they had. - The Non-Tie in section was rediculously large for a relatively small shop, and all science fiction/fantasy

They also had official and unofficial tech manuals, merchandise and masses and masses of comics, with some soundtrack cds.

Despite being 50 miles away (and pre-car) used to go once a month to buy loads of books. It's still going, but I haven't been in probably 20 years.
 
I like technology but damn has it messed up so many good things in the world. Not only have things all gone digital now we are going to get an influx of crap books written by nobodies who type an basic plot in Ai. Movies, Books ,Games etc are all going to be written by a non human...smh

I do have an ereader. They are good if you dont want to store paperbacks..I will miss the mass market paperbacks. I still liked to browse occasionally. At least hardcovers and trade paperbacks aren't going anywhere ...YET.

I got a National Geographic Subscription for one year..I missed reading paper. 😂 ...
 
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I do have an ereader. They are good if you dont want to store paperbacks..I will miss the mass market paperbacks. I still liked to browse occasionally. At least hardcovers and trad paperbacks aren't going anywhere ...YET.
I'm grateful for mine - too many books I will re-read that I have in MMPB (That I also can't get on ebook) - not enough space :(
 
Neither of the two that are closest to me carry the latest SNW hardback and only one had a copy of Greg Cox latest release.


That was one of the four ST novels they had. There was a TNG, one for Disco and truthfully, I don't remember what the fourth one was. But Greg's was the newest one.
 
Slackers. ;) When I worked for Crown Books my Manager cultivated the SF section at our store and we had a four foot section dedicated to Star Trek, Star Wars and other media tie ins. (Which probably wasn't to the company plan) The store was well known for it's SF selection. I continued to do so when I became the Manager.

That sounds like Trek-Heaven!

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The number of shelves varied from one location to another; the largest of our stores (until they opened a free-standing unit in the late 80s) was at the now defunct Randall Park Mall, and they had quite a bit more Trek novels than the store I first worked at. Whenever that store needed an extra hand sent from one of the others in our district, I'd volunteer to go over there.

Those were enjoyable days.
 
I can still remember as recently as a decade ago, Star Trek and Star Wars novels would have an entire shelving section each for their novels in a bookstore. But, back in November when I was started my Christmas shopping, I dropped into a Coles bookstore, Star Trek books were non-existent while Star Wars novels only occupied one shelf. And not even the whole shelf, at that.
 
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That pretty much sums up what I saw last night as well. An actual section for SW, four individual ST titles - and NONE of the four were hardcover, just trade PB.
 
no offense to the authors, but casual readers are going to be looking for them because they're interested in the series, not because they want the latest John Jackson Miller novel and don't particularly care if it's about Klingons, Jedi, or Batman. I feel like everyone involved should appreciate that they'll move more books if they put all the Star Trek novels together in a row.

No offense taken. I absolutely want my Trek books shelved with the other Trek books, not under "C" for Cox.

Ditto for every other tie-in series I've written for.

Alas, it's not just bookstores. A local library has a whole shelf devoted to Star Wars novels, but their Trek books are scattered throughout the "Fiction" section under the authors' names.

And just "Fiction" in general, since there is no designated SFF section.
 
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No offense taken. I absolutely want my Trek books shelved with the other Trek books, not under "C" for Cox.

Ditto for every other tie-in series I've written for.

Alas, it's not just bookstores. A local library has a whole shelf devoted to Star Wars novels, but their Trek books are scattered throughout the "Fiction" section under the authors' names.

And just "Fiction" in general, since there is no designated SFF section.

I can say the same thing about the comic book tie ins.
The Bothell library has a whole row devoted to Star Wars but the Star Trek are scattered amongst the collection.
Then there's Manga. There's three whole bookcases filled with Manga and Anime.
 
No offense taken. I absolutely want my Trek books shelved with the other Trek books, not under "C" for Cox.

Ditto for every other tie-in series I've written for.

Alas, it's not just bookstores. A local library has a whole shelf devoted to Star Wars novels, but their Trek books are scattered throughout the "Fiction" section under the authors' names.

And just "Fiction" in general, since there is no designated SFF section.
Back when I frequented our local library, the good news was that they kept the trek books together.
The bad news was their science fiction section was limited to around 50 books, included horror so at the time, they probably had about two or three each of Star Wars and Star Trek. - I definitely remember one of the Trek books being Metamorphosis (Jean Lorrah) though. One of the others was The Motion Picture.
 
I'm surprised you only have one Barnes and Noble in your area.
York, Pennsylvania didn't have a B&N until last summer. Before that, I had to go to Lancaster and the store on Fruitville Pike.

Weird but true. The distance from where I live in York County to the Lancaster B&N is almost exactly, less than half a mile, as the distance from where I lived in Chester County to the same store twenty-five years ago. Twenty-five years ago I'd go to Fruitville Pike at least once a month, and ten years ago it felt like an incredible chore. I think the reason for that is the Wrightsville bridge, which is 1 1/2 miles long across the Susquehanna, and it makes a trip of about twenty-five miles feel a lot longer than it really is.
 
I can say the same thing about the comic book tie ins.
The Bothell library has a whole row devoted to Star Wars but the Star Trek are scattered amongst the collection.
Then there's Manga. There's three whole bookcases filled with Manga and Anime.

It does seem to vary from library system to library system. Our old library, one county over, did have a separate SFF section, although the Trek books were scattered throughout, while our new library does not shelve by genre at all. It's all just "Fiction."
 
Last night I was in the only remaining Barnes & Noble we have left in our area, and when I walked in I was struck by the vast number of new TBPs that adorned a number of tables at the front of the store. While I've known for some time that mass-markets were on their way out, it was still just a bit jarring to see that many new titles in that format. There are still hard-covers to be sure, be even the new titles rack seemed to be a bit sparse.

Back in the science-fiction section, there are still a few MMs of various classic titles (Tolkien, Dune, a few Heinlein titles, but over all, the shelves were full of TPBs.

And there were only four Star Trek titles. Back when I worked for Waldenbooks, we had two shelves devoted to Trek.

Sadly, times change.
When I first started collecting Star Trek & Star Wars books the Barnes & Nobel I went to had 2 whole 7 or 8 foot tall book cases devoted to nothing but tie-ins, mostly Star Trek and Star Wars, but with a few other mixed in. The last time I went a few years ago, they had like one book case for all of the tie-ins with a few Star Wars and only 5 or 6 Trek books at most.
I found another one nearby online a few months ago, and when I did the online in store search I don't think I found any Trek books at all.
 
@Greg Cox, you have just hit upon the reason why I loathe Dewey Decimal classification: its staggeringly huge blind spot for fiction.
I worked as a public librarian for 30 years. I never heard of fiction being shelved under Dewey in public libraries unless it was part of a critical edition (and was cataloged in the 800s). All other fiction was cataloged by author (my system had separate sections for Mystery, SF/Fantasy and Romance and Graphic Novels).
 
I worked as a public librarian for 30 years. I never heard of fiction being shelved under Dewey in public libraries unless it was part of a critical edition (and was cataloged in the 800s). All other fiction was cataloged by author (my system had separate sections for Mystery, SF/Fantasy and Romance and Graphic Novels).
My point exactly. Not that LC is a whole lot better (but perhaps slightly better) in that regard.
 
In the 19th century, when Dewey created his system, fiction was viewed with disdain as disposable fluff. "Real" literature was poetry, and "real" books were nonfiction. Indeed, there was a major controversy in the library community of the late 19th-century as to whether or not libraries should even carry fiction at all.
 
In the 19th century, when Dewey created his system, fiction was viewed with disdain as disposable fluff. "Real" literature was poetry, and "real" books were nonfiction.
That hasn't really changed much.

During the course of my four semesters of Short Story Workshop at a local junior college, I had an ongoing friendly debate with the professor in which I asserted that (1) all fiction is genre fiction, because all fiction has a genre, even if the genre is "contemporary realism" or "historical realism," and (2) the distinction between "popular fiction" and "literary fiction" is completely artificial, because there is very little fiction that wasn't intended to be popular.

Consider music by analogy. Now in the 20th century, there is a fair amount of formally-composed art music that was intentionally written to be off-putting to the general public, or to casual listeners, because it was written for an audience of jaded, pretentious, elitists who cared more about excluding outsiders than they did about actually understanding or enjoying the music. But how much Schoenberg, Stockhausen, or Cage gets airplay on typical classical radio stations (outside of special-interest programs concentrating on new music)? I have a strong recollection of remarking to a total stranger, during intermission of an Orange County Chamber Orchestra concert, that a moderately challenging piece just performed was new music, but far from inaccessible. He denied that it was new music. The composer was still alive; it was not written for film, nor for musical theatre, but for the concert stage; the ink was barely dry on the manuscript score.

I suppressed the urge to strangle the guy on the spot.

Bach wrote mainly for church services. Handel, Haydn, and Mozart wrote for wealthy patrons, and for popular entertainment. Beethoven wrote for everybody. None of the sixteenth through nineteenth century composers we classify under the broad sense of the term, "classical music," deliberately sought to be unpopular. We classify them that way because their music stood the test of time, and is now seen as timeless. And there is a great deal of contemporary commercial popular music that cribs musical ideas from classical pieces (and a great deal of it that is now considered classical, e.g., Gershwin's Rhapsody in Blue, various early Broadway musicals, and Prokofiev's film scores).

And that is even more true of fiction. People may write intentionally unpopular fiction, but it rarely gets published, at least on a royalty basis, because publishers are in business to make money by selling books. The late, great, Dr. Karl Haas, in explaining the title of his long-running series of radio broadcasts, Adventures in Good Music, asserted that there are really only two kinds of music: good and bad, and they are entirely independent of genre. And by way of a corollary, I would add that there isn't a whole lot that can be objectively called bad. The same is true of fiction. I've read exactly one book that I regard as so unspeakably and irredeemably bad that I refuse to share its title in a public forum. And it was self-published.

Now there are a lot of books out there that only get bought (or checked out of the library) if either (a) it's a required reading in a literature class, or (b) somebody is buying it in order to support an elitist pretense of being "cultured." And there are also a great many books and short stories that are extremely worthwhile, that people only get introduced to in the classroom (Shirley Jackson's "The Lottery," with its brilliantly subtle foreshadowing that telegraphs nothing about the shocking ending, and Robert Coover's "The Babysitter," that shifts to a different reality with each new paragraph, both come to mind, and I've written an ultra-short that riffs on the experience of being a "Lottery virgin"). And there's also an awful lot out there that's eminently forgettable, and/or instantly dated.

Certainly fiction that makes the genre serve the story is superior to fiction in which the story is the slave of the genre. The former enriches both story and genre, while the latter impoverishes both. But to declare that whole genres of fiction are unworthy of a call-number, or unworthy of having a call-number that acknowledges the genre, is nothing but elitist bovine scat.
 
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