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When it became known that Khan would be the antagonist of Star Trek II, how was the fan reaction?

We tend to think of Khan as a legendary villain now, but I believe that came from TWOK and not from "Space Seed." By the time of TWOK, Montalban was indeed a pretty well-known and well-respected actor, but not because of Khan. As I recall, Harve Bennett had the original idea to use Khan and came to it simply from his watching of the 79 TOS episodes and feeling like Khan was a good character but also that the episode ended with Kirk wondering what would happen to them in the years down the road and Bennett thought that was a good springboard for the movie.
After disposing of all laws of physics and Trek canon.
 
Meh, Star Trek disposed of the laws of physics in the first five minutes of "The Cage."
It depends on their intelligence.
Anyone who knew The Original Series, knew its enlightened premise of peaceful resolution of conflict rather than narcissism of defeating evil aliens, as when Kirk saved the Hortas from being murdered by humans...
Kirk continued to hunt the Horta with the intention of killing it even after he knew that it was intelligent - and pretty certainly native to the planetoid where the miners were interlopers.

It's nice that he had a personal change of heart, but the mission Starfleet sent him on was one of sheer colonialism: Get ore production back up to speed by any means necessary.
 
I was 9 years old, so I didn’t even know who Khan was. But even at 9, and never having seen Space Seed, I could completely understand what was going on with just the tiny bit of backstory the movie provided.
 
I was 9 years old, so I didn’t even know who Khan was. But even at 9, and never having seen Space Seed, I could completely understand what was going on with just the tiny bit of backstory the movie provided.

The back story lied!

Checkoff was not in the Space Seed.

OH!

I have a solution for how Kirk is not the worst asshole and women, all of them, can eat crow for shouting that nugget from the roof tops.

Every time we saw Kirk get to first base in the original series, and he should have had a reliable girlfriend for 6 to 18 episode of the first run, Jim got sentimental and admitted that he was dad and that he loved his kid, and these women, all of them, ran, because dating a guy with kids is the worst.
 
Meh, Star Trek disposed of the laws of physics in the first five minutes of "The Cage."
Not at all. The power to create illusions was their weakness, and the Talosians wanted to avoid others falling prey to it by learning the same.

Kirk continued to hunt the Horta with the intention of killing it even after he knew that it was intelligent - and pretty certainly native to the planetoid where the miners were interlopers.

It's nice that he had a personal change of heart, but the mission Starfleet sent him on was one of sheer colonialism: Get ore production back up to speed by any means necessary.

They thought that it was hunting humans, not that it was a mother defending her children. This was an unprecedented shift in science fiction.
 
Not at all. The power to create illusions was their weakness, and the Talosians wanted to avoid others falling prey to it by learning the same.

FTL travel violates the laws of physics.

Yes, it does. Do better than chanting "Alcubierre."


They thought it was hunting humans, not that it was a mother defending her children.

The horta knew what a reactor pump was despite probably never having seen one. Proof of at least human-level intelligence.

They were hunting the indigenous people for trying to repel invaders, because it was interfering with business. Kirk said so.

Colonizers.


This was an unprecedented shift in science fiction.

Nothing of the kind. How much sf of the 50s and 60s have you actually read?
 
I'm sorry???

Any man who has more than 70 lovers per year for their entire adult life may not be a genuine or sincere person at heart, so it is the highest duty of every good natured soul to warn their friends and colleagues about wheresoever such a fickle emotional predator looms, waiting to pounce.
 
Any man who has more than 70 lovers per year for their entire adult life may not be a genuine or sincere person at heart, so it is the highest duty of every good natured soul to warn their friends and colleagues about wheresoever such a fickle emotional predator looms, waiting to pounce.
Seventy?
 
I don't recollect there being much preliminary talk of it at all back then. Build ups to sequels weren't like today. I don't even remember hearing much about the title beforehand, only that a sequel was coming. I remember in the theaters that seeing him show up was still somewhat novel to the audience, especially the look of him compared to TOS & Fantasy Island. There was a lot about that movie that was novel to people. That's what I think was the strength that propelled it to success. It got the recipe right
 
Checkoff was not in the Space Seed.

Walter Koenig used to explain at conventions that Chekov was in the lower decks during Season One. Not yet certified for bridge shifts. He met Khan in a bathroom after spoiled chicken was served at his banquet. Khan was suffering a bad bout of Montezuma's Revenge -- but Chekov was in the cubical first. Khan waited impatiently. Chekov finally emerged -- and Khan warned him that he'd never forget his face.
 
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