Random TOS stuff

[Ssosmcin]

I agree; Pike's ship/cruise has cadets aboard. Kirk's ship does not since it is on a 5 year mission (the concept of a 5YM didn't exist yet during the first pilot). In addition, Starfleet (not called that at the time) has specific training ships for cadets. As Pike says at the end of the episode:

Why do you think Pike's crack about running a cadet ship is anything other than a jab to get them to focus?

What if he said: "What are we running here? A clown college?" That wouldn't mean he has actual circus clowns on Deck 4.

He was cracking the whip. "What are you? Cadets or officers? Get back to work, get us out of orbit."

 

[scotpens]

it makes me think of a turbolift

You know you're a Star Trek geek when anything shaped like the letter C makes you think of a turbolift.

 

[Redfern]

What if he said: "What are we running here? A clown college?" That wouldn't mean he has actual circus clowns on Deck 4.

It would have if he were commanding "SpaceBall One".

 

[Rowdy Roddy McDowall]

SPOCK!!!!!! Don't LOOK!!!!! Cover your EYES!!!!!

 

[Happy Hopping]

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I accidentally come across this AI animation of actors from the first 3 Star trek movies. The animation is immensely impressive

 

[Maurice]

Yuck. This AI resurrecting the dead thing is creepy.

 

[The Salt Umpire]

AI SLOP

 

[Just a Bill]

I really hope this world gets over its infatuation with AI products, and soon. It's easy to think we're moving toward an Idiocracy future instead of a Star Trek future faster than ever now, and I've heard that movie cited a lot. But the real concern should be our breathless pursuit of the Orwellian future disguised as the Trek one. Why we are ushering in that era with applause and our tongues hanging out is beyond me.

Don't ask me to discern what's true, good, enduring, or right; just show me the trend you want me to jump on.

 

[korblborp]

Yuck. This AI resurrecting the dead thing is creepy.

it's only a matter of time before we DO actually get Vincent Price telling us about the horrors of an unfresh bowl :/

 

[Maurice]

That AI slop's depiction of Nimoy also raises a question in my mind. I’m not an expert on Judaism, but my understanding is that Jewish tradition generally doesn’t hold that deceased people become angelic beings, so depicting deceased Jews in the Christian-style winged-angel form would likely be theologically inconsistent. Nimoy might not have liked it.

I know… I know… angel wings are common shorthand for "dead" in the Western world, but as an atheist, I wouldn't like such a convention applied to images of me after my demise. I suspect many other non-Christians might feel the same.

 

[Just a Bill]

my understanding is that Jewish tradition generally doesn’t hold that deceased people become angelic beings

I think you're right, and I can also tell you that biblical Christianity also teaches no such thing. Angels and humans are separate beings in both testaments of the Judeo-Christian scriptures, and there are no accounts of God converting one into the other.

That said, there are no doubt millions of people who would identify as Christian who love to talk about their departed loved ones now being angels or looking over the living from heaven, but the bible presents no such theology. It's as extra-biblical as believing Jesus of Nazareth was born in December.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

Yuck. This AI resurrecting the dead thing is creepy.

...and the TOS version of Nimoy appears far older than any period between 1966-69.

 

[Maurice]

I think you're right, and I can also tell you that biblical Christianity also teaches no such thing. Angels and humans are separate beings in both testaments of the Judeo-Christian scriptures, and there are no accounts of God converting one into the other.

I know that. But it's been a common depiction for ages in Christian circles, regardless of it having any scriptural basis.

 

[Poltargyst]

...and the TOS version of Nimoy appears far older than any period between 1966-69.

I think it's showing them as they were in the movies.

 

[Poltargyst]

I wonder what else could have been used to indicate the ones who have died.

 

[mb22]

I wonder what else could have been used to indicate the ones who have died.

I've seen videos with halos (not Jewish either).

 

[Just a Bill]

I know that. But it's been a common depiction for ages in Christian circles, regardless of it having any scriptural basis.

Yeah, I agree. I just wanted to point out that it's not "in the book" for either of those groups.

I wonder what else could have been used to indicate the ones who have died.

I don't think there's any one depiction that would feel satisfying to a majority of belief systems. I suppose there could maybe be some kind of completely generic symbolism for those who believe in an afterlife, but for those who do not, there's literally nothing you can show because the person has ceased to exist in every plane of existence. Probably just the name floating in the air, I guess?

 

[Happy Hopping]

I think overall, the AI video is a very nice gesture.

P.S. how did Vincent Price tie to star trek?

 

[ZapBrannigan]

For deceased actors, I vote creepy. I don't want to see Humphrey Bogart in baggy knee-length shorts hawking an energy drink. Hard pass.

And beyond actors, this technology has to potential to poison our knowledge of any historical event after the invention of film. Historical forgery isn't new; there was a famous German dictator "diaries" hoax in 1983...

Hitler Diaries - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

...and Jack the Ripper had a diary hoax in 1992

James Maybrick - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

But it looks like AI video will be worse. And since the technology is so freely available, we could end up swimming in phony film clips that purport to "prove" somebody's point about history, or smear someone, or just prank the field of history for the hell of it.

 

[Ssosmcin]

P.S. how did Vincent Price tie to star trek?

Well, the alien at the Bar in Star Trek III who tried to sell McCoy a ride kinda sounded a little like him.

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