First look at Sophie Turner As Lara Croft

[Gaith]

I'll just repost the pic here for the record...

As someone who never played the games or saw any of the movies or the animated show, apart from the standard matters of quality that apply to just about all lighthearted action/adventure series, my main question is: will this series appeal and cater to the male gaze? Others may disagree, but I think it's generally healthy for a modest number of pop culture genre properties to unabashedly celebrate both male and female beauty, and I'm further fine with different properties focusing such celebration on different genders. (By all means, for example, have a women-aimed show like Bridgerton primarily focus, from what I understand, on male beefcake, and cater to the female gaze.)

Because if the show won't be doing that, and will instead be about an unflappable, stoic badass making nonchalant wisecracks in deadly situations week after week... I'm not sure how engaging that would be, regardless of said badass' gender. Time will tell.

 

[Thestral]

The rebooted first two games (I haven't gotten around to the third yet) were fantastic, so hopefully it's based on those.

 

[JD]

I was hoping it would be too, but that look does seem more geared towards the older games.

I'll just repost the pic here for the record...

As someone who never played the games or saw any of the movies or the animated show, apart from the standard matters of quality that apply to just about all lighthearted action/adventure series, my main question is: will this series appeal and cater to the male gaze? Others may disagree, but I think it's generally healthy for a modest number of pop culture genre properties to unabashedly celebrate both male and female beauty, and I'm further fine with different properties focusing such celebration on different genders. (By all means, for example, have a women-aimed show like Bridgerton primarily focus, from what I understand, on male beefcake, and cater to the female gaze.)

Because if the show won't be doing that, and will instead be about an unflappable, stoic badass making nonchalant wisecracks in deadly situations week after week... I'm not sure how engaging that would be, regardless of said badass' gender. Time will tell.

I don't know if it means anything to you, but Phoebe Waller-Bridge, who created Fleabag and Killing Eve, co-wrote No Time to Die, and played L3 in Solo, and Helena Shaw in Dial of Desting, developed it and is a co-showrunner. I'm not super familiar with her the stuff she's done, but from what little I do know, I doubt it will be mindless, male gaze focused, action fest.

 

[Forbin]

Somebody on Facebook did a nice image of Sydney Sweeny as Lara. Definitely more polygons.

 

[Set Harth]

Pretty sure that's Tom Hiddleston.

 

[Gaith]

I'm not super familiar with her the stuff she's done, but from what little I do know, I doubt it will be mindless, male gaze focused, action fest.

I enjoyed Fleabag. I don't know how mindful a Tomb Raider series could or should be, but I agree, the odds of her embracing a cheesecake approach seem low.

 

[Takeru]

And likely Aunt May in an eventual Marvel re-re-reboot.

Real talk, Aunt May should be young. It never made a lot of sense that the ant of a teenager looked like his great grandma in the comics. Casting a woman in her mid 40s for the part makes the most sense.

I get that, but aren't the most Bond actors in their late 30 and 40's?

Yes with Connery and Lazenby being the youngest at 32 and 29 respectively. Bit Bond is also supposed to be older. He's on his late 30s in the books while Lara is in her 20s in the games.

 

[Charles Phipps]

The rebooted first two games (I haven't gotten around to the third yet) were fantastic, so hopefully it's based on those.

I mean they already did the first game reboot with Vidkander and sadly weren't able to capture the magic.

I want Sophie to fight a T-Rex and maybe save Atlantis.

 

[JD]

Real talk, Aunt May should be young. It never made a lot of sense that the ant of a teenager looked like his great grandma in the comics. Casting a woman in her mid 40s for the part makes the most sense.

Yeah, it does seem odd that she'd be as old as she is usually portrayed, unless she was unless May was Mary's much, much older sister. I wouldn't expect a teenager's aunt to be much older than her late 30s - 50s.

 

[Tosk]

unless May was Mary's much, much older sister.

IIRC, Mary and May are only related by marriage. May is married to Ben Parker, who was Richard Parker's much older brother.

 

[JD]

Oh, OK. I could have sworn I read somewhere that May was Mary's sister, but I guess I remembered wrong.

 

[Thestral]

IIRC, Mary and May are only related by marriage. May is married to Ben Parker, who was Richard Parker's much older brother.

If Peter is 16, and his mother was say 30 when he was born, then she'd be 46 if she was alive. Suppose she married an older man - say Richard was 15 years older. He'd be 45 when Pete was born, and 61 if he was alive. If Ben Parker was much older - let's say 16 years, I worked with a girl in high school who had a newborn sister - then he'd be 77 when Pete was 16. Even if he married a woman 10 years younger, that would make Aunt May 67.

Making Aunt May younger is also perfectly valid of course, but the math does work out to make her in her 60s-70s. (Bear in mind, the Golden Girls actresses were in their 50s-60s when it started.)

 

[JD]

Is that how old she's supposed to be in the comics? Some of them seem to have her drawn her as looking pretty ancient.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Is that how old she's supposed to be in the comics? Some of them seem to have her drawn her as looking pretty ancient.

Old was different in the 60s

 

[Anwar]

IIRC, Mary and May are only related by marriage. May is married to Ben Parker, who was Richard Parker's much older brother.

Ben isn't even portrayed as much older than Richard anymore, most Flashbacks show them as looking close in age.

Oh, OK. I could have sworn I read somewhere that May was Mary's sister, but I guess I remembered wrong.

That was in the Ultimate comics, where the Parker brothers married sisters. May and Ben were both related to Peter in that version.

Is that how old she's supposed to be in the comics? Some of them seem to have her drawn her as looking pretty ancient.

Okay, this goes back to old printing and coloring processes done in the 1960s. If they hadn't drawn lines on May's face, her face wouldn't look much older than any of the other women in the comics and you wouldn't know she was older aside from having white hair. The problem is, when the technology improved later artists weren't informed about this and just assumed she was supposed to be really old and decrepit. It's entirely possible May wasn't supposed to be more older than middle aged originally.

 

[Takeru]

If Peter is 16, and his mother was say 30 when he was born, then she'd be 46 if she was alive. Suppose she married an older man - say Richard was 15 years older. He'd be 45 when Pete was born, and 61 if he was alive. If Ben Parker was much older - let's say 16 years, I worked with a girl in high school who had a newborn sister - then he'd be 77 when Pete was 16. Even if he married a woman 10 years younger, that would make Aunt May 67.

Making Aunt May younger is also perfectly valid of course, but the math does work out to make her in her 60s-70s.

Of course you can make the math work, you can also make the math work and have May be younger than Peter but her being in her mid 40s to maybe early 50s is the more likely scenario. And oc course those characters were crated in 1962, so Peter would have been born shortly after WW2. Back then people had children much earlier than today, May being in her 30s would have been believable and no reader would have questioned that.

(Bear in mind, the Golden Girls actresses were in their 50s-60s when it started.)

But they played grandmothers (or a great-grandmother in Sophia's case) not aunts.

 

[Mage]

Old was different in the 60s

Hell, three of the Golden girls were in their early to mid 50's. From our currrent point of view their hair styles and clothing would make us think they were in their 70's.

 

[Takeru]

Hell, three of the Golden girls were in their early to mid 50's. From our currrent point of view their hair styles and clothing would make us think they were in their 70's.

Only Rue McLanahan was in her early 50s, the other three were in their 60s.

 

[Tosk]

Bea - 63
Betty - 63
Rue - 51
Estelle - 62

 

[Mage]

Bea - 63
Betty - 63
Rue - 51
Estelle - 62

That's how old the actresses were. I'm talking about the characters.
In season 1, Dorothy was 55, Rose also 55 and Blanche was 53. Sophia was 79.