What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

[Jason X-Mas]

I think Peter Allan Fields was a underrated talent that did lots of good writing for DS9. But I think he retired after season 2 but did come back to write In The Pale Moonlight and For the Uniform, I mean just look at the episodes he wrote or at least got a story credit for on DS9

Dax
Progress
Duet
The Circle
Necessary Evil
Blood Oath
Crossover
For The Uniform
In the Pale Moonlight
The Dogs of War(surprised by this one.)

 

[knightgrace]

The problem that I have with 'Star Trek: Deep Space 9', is the Runabout...


You are on a Federation Starfleet run Space Station, near a boarder, with a people that are so Byzantium in nature?

And the only thing Benjamin Sisko has is the Runabout? They weren't thinking, a couple of Miranda class ships should have been docked on standby. Full crews. For at least evacuation purposes.

The Runabout, in particular: maximum warp factor 4.7, the way out of this, should have been determined by antimatter availability. In other words the Runabout should have been faster than this, and not a new idea...the Enterprise-D, was supposed to have 22 person large shuttles, and less flexible in design cargo or passenger...with vastly more computer power than a Shuttlecraft.

As to scripts more Cardasian story line troubles.

 

[Unionized Elf]

I remember reading, even before the episode aired, that the plan was to bring her back on DS9, which never happened.

IIRC, that was an urban legend. So the story goes, the DS9 episode Second Skin, in which Kira wakes up on Cardassia surgically altered to appear Cardassian, was originally written for Sito Jaxa. But I've never seen any confirmation of that. Granted, I've never seen anyone refute the claim either.

 

[Jason X-Mas]

The problem that I have with 'Star Trek: Deep Space 9', is the Runabout...


You are on a Federation Starfleet run Space Station, near a boarder, with a people that are so Byzantium in nature?

And the only thing Benjamin Sisko has is the Runabout? They weren't thinking, a couple of Miranda class ships should have been docked on standby. Full crews. For at least evacuation purposes.

The Runabout, in particular: maximum warp factor 4.7, the way out of this, should have been determined by antimatter availability. In other words the Runabout should have been faster than this, and not a new idea...the Enterprise-D, was supposed to have 22 person large shuttles, and less flexible in design cargo or passenger...with vastly more computer power than a Shuttlecraft.

As to scripts more Cardasian story line troubles.

I never noticed this about the Runabouts. I always assumed they went as fast as the plot required them to.

 

[knightgrace]

speed of the plot is an excuse. They, the producers came up with their own speed limits...which makes me wonder just how many speeding tickets they have...got to be more than a few. The oddball out there has none...

 

[Forbin]

Speaking of bases I will say something controversial. The DS9 baseball episode is in the top 10 to 20 episodes of the show. It's to his day a underrated Trek classic.

Story aside, what my techie brain couldn't handle about that episode, is how they had two ball teams and stands full of fans, all experience separate points of view of a ball field in a 3 or 4-meter-square room. I get how a holodeck can fool ONE person into experiencing vast spaces from ONE point of view, but nobody in that room could have been more than a few meters from each other in reality.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Story aside, what my techie brain couldn't handle about that episode, is how they had two ball teams and stands full of fans, all experience separate points of view of a ball field in a 3 or 4-meter-square room. I get how a holodeck can fool ONE person into experiencing vast spaces from ONE point of view, but nobody in that room could have been more than a few meters from each other in reality.

And this wasn't a full size TNG Starship Holodeck, this was one of Quarks Holo-Suites which were designed for more, shall we say, "intimate" purposes. With a minimum of 20 people in the suite, I'm surprised they couldn't feel each other's breath on their necks.

 

[Tallguy]

Story aside, what my techie brain couldn't handle about that episode, is how they had two ball teams and stands full of fans, all experience separate points of view of a ball field in a 3 or 4-meter-square room. I get how a holodeck can fool ONE person into experiencing vast spaces from ONE point of view, but nobody in that room could have been more than a few meters from each other in reality.

You can say the same of any holodeck episode with a group of people.

What's kind of funny is that in Elementary My Dear Data there is no indication that these people are all actually a couple of feet apart. (Because they're not. They're on a big set.) But if you watch The Fellowship of the Ring it's painfully obvious that the actors are all on a soundstage with an FX environment added in post. Which is how holodecks should work.

Holodecks are magic.

 

[Forbin]

To bring it back to Trek, some of the early mysoginistic and racist mindsets seen in some of the very early TOS (The Cage, Mudd’s Women, for instance), are on the same page. I find those viewpoints deplorable as well.

How about The Lights of Zetar? I enjoy the episode, but Kirk constantly referring to professional Star Fleet officer Meara Romaine as "The Girl" drives me nuts these days.

 

[Tallguy]

How about The Lights of Zetar? I enjoy the episode, but Kirk constantly referring to professional Star Fleet officer Meara Romaine as "The Girl" drives me nuts these days.

Everything about The Lights of Zetar drives me nuts these days. But what do I know? Maybe it's just SPACE.

 

[Frostscape One]

Story aside, what my techie brain couldn't handle about that episode, is how they had two ball teams and stands full of fans, all experience separate points of view of a ball field in a 3 or 4-meter-square room. I get how a holodeck can fool ONE person into experiencing vast spaces from ONE point of view, but nobody in that room could have been more than a few meters from each other in reality.

The stands of fans were all holograms, except for Rom.

 

[SantaEddie74]

Something something something moving treadmill deckplates and depth perception. Victorian London in "Elementary, Dear Data(TNG)" is similar. The largest city in the world at that time recreated on a holodeck with our heroes walking blocks and blocks of streets and often a fair distance from their fellow flesh-and-blood shipmates.

Dr. Pulaski was held hostage by Moriarty and a fair distance from where Data and Geordi were at any given moment.

 

[fireproof78]

You can say the same of any holodeck episode with a group of people.

What's kind of funny is that in Elementary My Dear Data there is no indication that these people are all actually a couple of feet apart. (Because they're not. They're on a big set.) But if you watch The Fellowship of the Ring it's painfully obvious that the actors are all on a soundstage with an FX environment added in post. Which is how holodecks should work.

Holodecks are magic.

That can't be accurate. I have it on good authority that holodecks, especially the Berman era, were highly calculated for the scientific accuracy.