I do like Prometheus and Covenant too, just not as much as the ones I listed.
Blade Runner: the franchise
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The "Blade Runner 2099" showrunner was a producer on the Paramount+ Halo TV show.
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Giantfreakinrobot is not a reputable site, as the sexist and deceptive drivel in that quoted passage makes clear. Steven Kane and David Wiener were the showrunners of seasons 1 & 2 of Halo, respectively; Silka Luisa was simply a supervising producer and writer on the first season, several steps below the showrunner in the hierarchy, and was not involved with season 2. Of the 19 executive or co-executive producers listed on IMDb for Halo, only five were women, and Luisa was not one of them. Luisa's one prior showrunner credit was for Apple TV+'s Shining Girls, an SF thriller that's gotten favorable reviews.
It sounds like they’re maybe projecting about Halo’s “terribleness”, too. I never watched it. and so have no opinion, but Rotten Tomatoes appears to show high approval ratings. Is this like how certain loud watchers keep going “Hack, I say! And ptooie!” over The Rings of Power or any Star Trek show made after the turn of the century?
Yeah, some people just engage in performative outrage to get clicks. And there's always an audience, unfortunately, for sexist or racist whining about how TV isn't made exclusively for and by heterosexual white men "anymore" (even though inclusiveness has been around for longer than many of them have been alive). I haven't seen Halo either, but it looks like it has a very diverse cast, which is enough to earn a "terrible" rating from people who can't see past their prejudices.
It always bemuses me how misogynists think their kneejerk outrage at any participation by women makes them look tough and macho, when all it does is make them look fragile, whiny, and terrified by the very existence of women.
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Kind of, but moreso. I thought it was a fine adaptation. I found it wacky and frustrating that a fandom that fetishized Halo's tie-in novels over the storytelling in the actual games (there was a bit of a disconnect for the first decade of the franchise before the development studio spun off into a dedicated Halo-only company and started caring about the ancillary material) suddenly realized they hated everything the novels introduced over the objections of the games' creators once they saw it in a TV show.
I watched the first couple episodes of the Halo show when it first started and I thought it was pretty good, and it seemed like most of the reactions I saw to it were decent to good, so the way the quoted article treated it as an absolute fact that it was terrible and everyone hated seems a bit questionable to me.
And Michelle Yeoh is absolutely not in any way, shape, or form, best know for ruining Star Trek, it was one movie that got bad reviews, and had no effect whatsoever on the stuff that has come out after it. And I would say Michelle Yeoh is much better know for things like Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, Everything Everywhere All At Once, and possibly Shang-Chi than she is for Section 31.
I'm not familiar with the games, though I'm interested in their use of the title structures, which I gather are like the Orbitals in Iain M. Banks's Culture novels. I might check out the show sometime.
Wow, I didn't even catch that part. That guy thinks Trek is a "male-focused franchise?" What absolute BS. The first generation of Trek fans was predominantly female. It was women who organized the first conventions and wrote the vast majority of early fanfiction. It's pathetic that these misogynistic cowards haven't learned a thing since three decades ago when they were hurling vile insults at Kate Mulgrew on Usenet.
And Michelle Yeoh was a major Hong Kong action movie star long before her American movie career took off, easily one of the greatest female martial-arts stars of all time.
Though tangential to your point, I remember they did it at Tim Russ too back then, for the other obvious vile reason. There was a particularly unpleasantly-titled thread about that (and if anybody else remembers it, for decency’s sake don’t name it!) that I recall just wouldn’t go away for the longest while.
The problem with the Internet is the lack of filters. Before, fans expressed their opinions through letter columns in magazines like Starlog or Cinefantastique, and the editors wouldn't publish the bigoted trash that came in, except occasionally so they could refute it. And actors and producers usually had assistants who'd vet their fan mail and throw out the weird and hateful letters. There are many moderated forums online, of course, but too many that let anything through.
I’m increasingly of the depressed opinion that’s that’s true not only of the Internet, but of our current society itself — to whatever extent there’s still even a difference.
FWIW, as someone who played the games and read some of the tie-ins, I mostly liked the Halo TV series, though it took too long to get to the actual ringworld from the first game, with the show getting cancelled just where things were about to get more recognizably Halo. But my favourite part of the show was the development of Kate Kennedy's character Kai-125, especially after she followed John-117's lead and removed her emotion suppressor, and that character and arc were created for the TV series. Still, the show's main problem was that it had too many plot threads with too many characters.
With any luck, Blade Runner 2099 won't have the same problem. I am concerned, though, that if they go for streaming era convoluted plots, and if they aren't treating this as a one-off, there's a good chance 2099 may get cancelled before its story is finished. The chances of BR2099 being a big hit right out of the gate, unlike the original, 2049, or Black Lotus, seem a bit remote.
With any luck, Blade Runner 2099 won't have the same problem. I am concerned, though, that if they go for streaming era convoluted plots, and if they aren't treating this as a one-off, there's a good chance 2099 may get cancelled before its story is finished. The chances of BR2099 being a big hit right out of the gate, unlike the original, 2049, or Black Lotus, seem a bit remote.
As I have no familiarity with the game beyond general awareness, I'm only interested in how good the show might be on its own terms. Which might make me the ideal viewer, maybe?
Did I mention that I couldn't get past the first episode of Black Lotus? Surprisingly bad facial animation for such a recent CGI show, and the story didn't interest me.
The Black Lotus animation style is sort of similar to the style used in Ghost in the Shell: SAC_2045, and they both took a lot of getting used to. I didn't care much for Black Lotus the first time around, watching it weekly, but liked it a bit more when I did a binge rewatch, following a suggestion from a friend. That doesn't mean I'd recommend it, except to BR completists. Elle just doesn't seem to have been thought through very well. She's a victim turned force of vengeance but rarely a person.
I was actually caught up with the games once upon a time. But that was over a decade ago. I fell off.
I didn’t either. It felt like generic cyberpunk, plus the attractive young Asian woman gets a katana because of course she does. (Before anybody says it, Wendy on Alien: Earth walking around with a sword seems weird to me too, though that’s a much better series.)
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