Tawny Newsome and Justin Simien developing new live-action Trek series
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It's not the first time I've heard this. There is probably some truth to it.
IIRC, it isn't so much that five seasons automatically equals mandatory raise as it is most of the time the actors have five year contracts, meaning after the fifth season contracts have to be renegotiated, which does entitle the actors to raises.
GOT and Walking Dead are exceptions, I think. Five seems generous.
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Even monster hits rarely go past five now. It's just the way they all do business.
Things like Game of Thrones and Walking Dead were cable TV and also started over a decade ago.
Strange New Worlds will almost certainly not go past season five. This is not me doomsaying, I wish it could go longer. It's just ridiculously unlikely.
Things like Game of Thrones and Walking Dead were cable TV and also started over a decade ago.
Strange New Worlds will almost certainly not go past season five. This is not me doomsaying, I wish it could go longer. It's just ridiculously unlikely.
Streaming shows? No. In fact it's pretty rare for a streaming series to even make it as far as five seasons. About the only place where its common to see shows last longer than five seasons are the networks. And even that's starting to lean towards a shorter runs, at least when it comes to shows that have started in the past decade.
In the past, one of the reasons they wanted shows to run for extended lengths was so the syndication rights could be sold to other networks. 100+ episodes could fetch a nice chunk of change.
It's pretty much the only reason Enterprise got a 4th season. They wanted to get it up to almost 100.
Now, in the age of streaming, syndication rights are a minor issue with networks mostly holding onto their own properties on their own streaming services.
It's pretty much the only reason Enterprise got a 4th season. They wanted to get it up to almost 100.
Now, in the age of streaming, syndication rights are a minor issue with networks mostly holding onto their own properties on their own streaming services.
Yep. This paradigm shift is also a factor in why seasons are generally shorter these days as well.
Star Trek: The Office: Big Brother: Risa
And we already started to see this as far back as the 90s when cable networks began producing their own shows instead of selling them to broadcast networks. HBO, Showtime, AMC, FX, etc were all producing 13 episode seasons.
So 22-26 episode seasons is really a terrestrial broadcast thing. CBS got a lot of flack from some fans for going the streaming route instead of staying on broadcast television, but I think they ended up making the smarter move. Viewing habits have dramatically changed since 2017 that streaming has now overtaken terrestrial television. Viewers of antenna/cable new skew very old and far outside the target demo that corporations look for.
The future for terrestrial or even cable broadcasting is not bright.
I recall when DC had their short lived US streaming service they made a shit-ton of shows, Doom Patrol, Titans and eventually one whose name I don't remember and never saw. A workplace comedy about people who clear up after superhero battles or something. I remember thinking they were scraping the barrel to make more contractually obligated content.
Bear in mind, I never saw this show, just giving my thoughts.
Because that's how I feel about this.
Bear in mind, I never saw this show, just giving my thoughts.
Because that's how I feel about this.
I'm curious where streaming will be in ten years. When it comes to Trek, I don't think it got any exposure better than when it was on Netflix. When they got all of Trek back in 2011, that opened the door to a whole new generation of audiences and did as much good for the franchise as the Abrams films.
Look at BREAKING BAD. It was a very modest hit on AMC, but then when they put the first three seasons on Netflix it suddenly gained a whole new audience and their ratings on AMC skyrocketed as a result.
Meanwhile Trek is stuck on Paramount+, and only getting a fraction of the audience it could be getting on Netflix.
Look at BREAKING BAD. It was a very modest hit on AMC, but then when they put the first three seasons on Netflix it suddenly gained a whole new audience and their ratings on AMC skyrocketed as a result.
Meanwhile Trek is stuck on Paramount+, and only getting a fraction of the audience it could be getting on Netflix.
Powerless.
I wouldn't want Trek to rely on Netflix. They are the most cancel-happy joint going.
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I'm talking more about the library than ongoing shows. Though one method to attract new viewers would be doing what BREAKING BAD did. License the first two seasons of SNW to Netlflix, and they grab a whole new audience that may want to subscribe on P+ to check out the newer stuff.
But that won't ever happen unless streamers get desperate enough.
You mean for Tawny’s pet project ? Possibly…
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