There are great episodes in season 7 of STNG, aren't there?
Well I think there are, especially the final episode, simply amazing.
Well I think there are, especially the final episode, simply amazing.
What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?
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"Parallels" is pretty awesome Trek by the standards of any of the series.
Strangely, I find a lot of TNG Season 7 to be episodes I remember the most fondly.
There's definitely some nostalgic thing going on with season 6 and 7 for me, I think those were the seasons I was first exposed to when it comes to STNG. That was around the tender age of 12 to 14.
7 is, like 1, a mixture of greatness, frequent mediocrity and just plain awfulness. It does have more good or great episodes than the freshman season does, that much is evident.
Comparing the amount of good/great episodes of those two seasons...
Season 1:
"Where No One Has Gone Before"
"The Battle"
"The Big Goodbye"
"Datalore"
"Home Soil"
"Coming Of Age"
"Heart of Glory"
"The Arsenal of Freedom"
"Conspiracy"
Season 7:
"Phantasms"
"Parallels"
"The Pegasus"
"Lower Decks"
"Masks"
"Genesis"
"Preemptive Strike"
"All Good Things..."
Counting the finale as two episodes (which it is, considering production codes and episode length), they both have the same number of good/great episodes.
However, a few things edges the 1st season as better...
1. The music. Ron Jones was here, and he was definitely the superior composer for the seasons he did vs. the ones he wasn't on.
2. More sense of wonder and exploration. We get unusual aliens like Armus, 'Microbrain', space jellyfish at Farpoint, and the Crystalline Entity. Season 7 gave us a secret dead sister for Troi, a previously unknown 'mother' for Data, a fake son for Picard, and a grandmother who enjoyed ghost sex for Crusher.
3. TNG felt fresher.
While the highs of season 7 were among the very best of the series, like "The Pegasus" and "All Good Things...", the season OVERALL was definitely less than the sum of its parts, unlike season 1.
For what it's worth, these are top twenty episodes of season 1 and season 7, according to IMDb:
- All Good Things
- Parallels
- Lower Decks
- The Pegasus
- Conspiracy
- Gambit, Part II
- Preemptive Strike
- Gambit, Part I
- Thine Own Self
- Descent, Part II
- Datalore
- Where No One Has Gone Before
- Phantasms
- Attached
- Inheritance
- 11001001
- The Neutral Zone
- The Big Goodbye
- Heart of Glory
- Coming of Age
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"Phantasms" and "Attached" better than "The Neutral Zone"?
Not in this universe, but to each their own.
Not in this universe, but to each their own.
its too easy to reach the rank of captain in the Trek universe especially in the Kelvinverse
"Phantasms", absolutely. "Attached", no."Phantasms" and "Attached" better than "The Neutral Zone"?
Not in this universe, but to each their own.
"Attached" has the whole "world government by 2150" trivia point and, well, nothing else.
crappy philosophical episodes where both sides have valid points, usually a downer ending, and absolutely no reason to rewatch after you have seen them once. the ones that sap all of the fun out of the show.
For sure - but even as a mirror refugee, they could have played it straight - a "good" Terran would still be dark and traumatized by our standards, and he could be trying to bring Federation style reforms to the Empire; he could have been an honest-to-god convert, and not just another mustache twirling villain. It would have made the stakes at the end so much bigger, and the choice michael has to make that much harder.
He could have been the mid-23rd century version of Mirror O'Brien and a more complex and engaging person, but they didn't give us that. And it's one of DSC's biggest narrative failings across five seasons.
"Phantasms" and "Attached" better than "The Neutral Zone"?
Not in this universe, but to each their own.
STRAIGHT UP LIKE A MORN LOVER, YO!!
i think thats season 4.
i was going to make a post about how I actually think Season 1 might be my favorite, and a lot of what I was going to say was covered here.
i actually really like the characters in their original configurations, before everything became static and formulaic. i like riker-kirk 2.0 with no beard, and cool-young geordi the blind-pilot, worf before he became so one note, tasha, etc.... season 1 seemed more alive, more background characters bustling around, more of that living ship with 1000 people on it. everything was new and exciting and dangerous and suspenseful. there was a bit of serialization near the end of season 1 that really never happened again. the sci fi plots were wonderous and crazy. the only reason i can't pick s1 as my favorite is because of how much i feel pulaski elevates season 2. its definitely downhill after best of both worlds.
Yeah, that always bugged me too.
They could have done more future authors/books/poetry and it would have been reasonable (e.g. "let me help"), as I understand stuff like future music is essentially impossible, because scifi productions (not just Star Trek) usually make it terrible space disco because there's the idea that futuristic music needs to be "electronic". Although, amusingly, i find the "Way to Eden" to be one of the better attempts at it, maybe because it didn't try too hard.
Even if forced to stick with the cheap public domain materials from history, it would have been nice if some crewmembers had an interest in other Earth cultures, that would have provided some variety instead of everyone seeming like they went to an English boarding school in 1850.
Agreed, even things like "Code of Honor" might not have been as problematic if they featured alien-looking aliens.
Like you, @Phoenix219 said, there was more effort at making space seem weird and dangerous. Oddly enough, I think that made it fit in better with TOS, which also had more of that "space is trippy" psychedelic vibe.
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