There's no contradiction here. Not even close. So....
Balance of Terror
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Don't forget his half-brother and adopted human sister nobody ever knew about!
That might have had something to do with an abandoned plot line where it turned out that T'Pol was half-Romulan.
Maybe its on the orders of T'Pau that there's nothing in the database? Considering her stature in Federation history and consider to be "all of Vulcan is one package", maybe its more of a reflection of T'Pau than Vulcan itself.
Or its because she worked in the Ministry of Security a decade before joining Enterprise. And took on some top-secret missions.
Between that and leading the Tomed mission, where a disguised Romulan was under her command, who knows what T’Pol truly knows about Romulans.
Perhaps one of the conditions the Vulcans asked for and received when they agreed to join/found the Federation was the right to keep certain information to themselves until such time as it becomes pertinent (in their humble opinions). Most Vulcans served on Vulcan ships, certainly not as the lone Vulcan on their posting, so it didn't come up - you discussed Vulcan issues with fellow Vulcans (health, family connections, etc) and kept it mum as a matter of principle, unless circumstances demanded otherwise.
Spock may be unusual in that most Vulcan/Human hybrids (remember, such a thing only became known to be possible sometime between the 22nd and 23rd centuries) tended to have more in common with their Human ancestry than their Vulcan one (or at least were believed to be so), so again, they could be treated mostly as Humans. It would explain why he was looked down upon - they thought he was more Human, because he's even half that.
Spock may be unusual in that most Vulcan/Human hybrids (remember, such a thing only became known to be possible sometime between the 22nd and 23rd centuries) tended to have more in common with their Human ancestry than their Vulcan one (or at least were believed to be so), so again, they could be treated mostly as Humans. It would explain why he was looked down upon - they thought he was more Human, because he's even half that.
Was Spock the first hybrid, after T'Pol and Trip's baby died?
My understanding is that he was the first hybrid to survive and grow to adulthood. This is according to the interview between Roddenberry and Sarek Here is the transcript: http://www.selek.ca/pat_w/Sarek_Roddenberry_interview.htm and the interview itself: https://redshirtsalwaysdie.com/2021/05/24/gene-roddenberry-interviews-spocks-father-sarek/
We have no knowledge, one way or another.
Was this an actual, screen-used baby in Star Trek: Enterprise, or a yarn added later by some recent, ostensible "Star Trek" show, or a baby that was written in a novel? I need to know how thoroughly I should disregard the tragedy.
This was in the two episodes "Terra Prime" and "Demons."
Thanks. I think I saw it in first run, but I have no specific memory of it.
I would be very surprised if Spock were really the first hybrid in a century. Lorian’s existence in “E2” showed it was possible, and it’s kind of hard to believe that in all that time, no other Vulcan/Human pairing made a go of it and succeeded (or alternately, that no other Vulcan wanted to try).
Fan fiction doesn’t count as evidence.
Haha.
Well said. I agree with it all. Though I think Enterprise bent a few rules. I still enjoy it because they didn't go too far. So I do enjoy it as well as Picard Season 1-3. The other two live action shows pretty much totally disregard continuity. People Try to reconcile it all but it's like trying to fit a round peg in a square hole. It will never work...unless you use a hammer....Is it fan fiction if it's a conversation between the creator of the series (Roddenberry himself) and one of his characters?
Since it was never turned into a show and broadcast, I would tend to put it in the same category as other behind the scenes materials written by the creators, such as the series bible - information which comes from an authoritative source and gives information on what might have been, but nonetheless remains unofficial until incorporated into an actual episode.
Was it shown on screen?
I understand your point of view, though I do not agree with it.
If it never makes it to the small or large screen as an official studio production, it's apocryphal information that has no bearing on canon, period. Any thought experiments/embellishments are head canon. Commit any of it to writing and it's fan fiction. Sell that writing as a book or comic book, and it's still not canon. (Yes, I know there are official tie-in works, but it's marketing and merchandise rubbish that never has appreciable impact on canon anyway.)
It's not a difficult concept.
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