What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

[Coops]

Eeesh. I don't know who that is.

 

[Tallguy]

That's Welshy, James Doohan's replacement on Futurama.

 

[fireproof78]

Do we not count

?

We do not.

RIP.

 

[BillJ]

That's Welshy, James Doohan's replacement on Futurama.

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[1001001]

The guy who played Scotty couldn’t yodel.

 

[drt]

As someone who became a fan of Trek back in the 90s, what always intrigued me about TMP is how odd it seems. It sticks out as feeling like nothing else that has the Star Trek moniker attached to it. It doesn't feel like TOS or any of the other movies featuring the TOS or TNG casts.

Yeah, TMP really is its own thing. It has a “we consulted with NASA and 70s futurists” vibe that really stands out. None of the other productions look like anyone bothered with consulting futurists ever again (shoot, TWOK was completely the opposite and went 1800s “Age of Sail in Spaaaace”, down to manually loading cannonballs).

I actually prefer Spock’s console better behind Kirk, it’s closer to the center seat, so almost acts as a mini-conference area for Kirk, Spock and Decker in TMP, which I really like for some reason. I sort of wonder if that proximity is why for the later shows they have the captain and first officer sitting together. (I’m also reminded that the initial plans for the 1701-D was to have the command crew actually sitting at a conference table on the bridge.)

 

[Shat Happens]

the initial plans for the 1701-D was to have the command crew actually sitting at a conference table on the bridge

I can totally believe that

 

[Citiprime]

I sort of wonder if that proximity is why for the later shows they have the captain and first officer sitting together. (I’m also reminded that the initial plans for the 1701-D was to have the command crew actually sitting at a conference table on the bridge.)

I’ve seen the concept art for that. In some of them, it basically makes the edge of the horseshoe into a wraparound couch that sits on one side of the table. The center table in OPS for Deep Space Nine probably comes the closest to that idea.

But, you’re right. I never thought about it but all of the Berman-era shows (except for Enterprise) tend to have the Captain and XO (principally the two leads of the show) sitting or standing together where they can be in frame at the same time.

 

[Farscape One]

And I really think the main reason ENT just had the single captain's chair in the center was because it predated TOS.

One thing that might be worthy of noting... during ENT and TOS era, Starfleet XOs seem to always be pulling double duty. (Spock in TOS, T'Pol in ENT, Una in SNW.) Makes me wonder if that was the primary reason why there was never a second seat for the XO before TNG... they were all at actual stations.

 

[Sci]

I understand what Star Trek: Into the Space Vagina was trying to do. But it has a fundamental structural problem, which is that entirely too much of the film is about characters giving wordless reactions to a viewscreen.

 

[Tallguy]

I understand what Star Trek: Into the Space Vagina was trying to do. But it has a fundamental structural problem, which is that entirely too much of the film is about characters giving wordless reactions to a viewscreen.

Robert Wise agreed with you.

 

[BillJ]

Picard season three is dumb as fuck, but incredibly entertaining.

 

[Tallguy]

Picard season three is dumb as fuck,

YES.

but incredibly entertaining.

Sometimes.

 

[cooleddie74]

Picard season three is dumb as fuck, but incredibly entertaining.

TOLD YOU.

 

[fireproof78]

Picard season three is dumb as fuck, but incredibly entertaining.

The stuff with Worf and Vadic definitely were.

 

[Tallguy]

I hated a LOT of Picard. I'm not sure how much of what I hated had Worf in it.

 

[1001001]

I think Picard I and Picard III both started out with amazing promise.

And I think they both crashed and burned toward the end.

Picard II was a shit show from the beginning. Such a terrible waste.

 

[cooleddie74]

PIC Season 2 is just the worst Trek that anyone's made since the Reagan Presidency, and yes, I'm including VOY at its worst and movies like NEM.

 

[Lord Garth]

I disagree. I'd rather watch Picard Season 2 than "Threshold". Anyone who'd rather watch "Threshold" than PIC S2, I have to question either their sanity or their honesty.

"But we're talking about entire seasons!" Okay. Then I'll take your Picard Season 2 and raise you Enterprise Season 2. At least I can stay awake during PIC S2.

 

[cooleddie74]

I love ENT. And most of Season 2 is just painfully mediocre.