Did Picard switch it back to a 3 Shift Rotation?
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But not because of some grand plan he was developing. He just couldn't give up on daddy & it ended up being a stroke of good luck that he didn't.
It was Data that did all the heavy lifting in saving everyone from assimilation, which no one had expected he'd be capable of doing. Riker rescuing Picard without Data to save everyone for him, would've been as futile as when Jellico told him he wasn't allowed to do that very same thing in CoC.
In the latter case, Riker wanting to charge in to rescue Picard was literally the bait being dangled out in front of that dummy. Riker is just so very very wrong in that deal with the Cardassians. He virtually made Nechayev's point for her.
As for the shifts, I imagine once the defcon level was back to normal, there'd be no reason Picard couldn't just return everything back to his specs, including his fish... And likely did so, as a man with his own sense of order.
As a 32 year veteran of night shift duty in hospitals, I can assure you that the enemy of the week does not make a point of keeping the same hours as the ship's captain. Did Picard ever awaken to red alerts in his quarters? Seems I recall him yawning a time or two as he walked onto the bridge in some emergency.
Sure, plant that image in my head so I can't rest until I figure out what episode it was in.
... It was probably Night Terrors
Hmmm... I see a connection here. They ALL had Data. And they made good use of him, Jellico included. So it wasn't about which human was best at the job, it was all about the android.
that actually puts some grim perspective on the timeline where the federation fell t the Borg after wolf-359.. perhaps that was a timeline where Data lost the court case in "measure of a man".. and as a result, Riker wasn't able to rescue picard and stop the borg in "best of both worlds", dooming the federation to assimilation.
Oooh I like that divergence point -- Riker refuses to prosecute Data, Data loses and handed over to Maddox, and Riker didn't even know that he doomed the entire quadrant.
Oh, I thought 4 duty shifts didn't increase any manpower , it just changed timing from a regular 24 hour day to 6 on, 12 off, repeat as needed. So basically Work, get a nap in, work, get a nap in, etc. till whatever emergency was over.
Done that in the military for awhile while on guard duty, and it was at a heightened time, So to me the 4 shift rotation was Jelico stepping up to an "action" mode. And when Picard came back it went back to normal.
Done that in the military for awhile while on guard duty, and it was at a heightened time, So to me the 4 shift rotation was Jelico stepping up to an "action" mode. And when Picard came back it went back to normal.
A star ship is a complicated mechanism, there are many parts/regions therein which require constant maintenance or observation, or the ship will blow up.
Remember that one episode of tng with the guy who just spent all day watching a flux capacitor (S07E18 Eye of the Beholder) foolishly believing that he had the most important job on the ship?
Lets say that they need 2 hundred people per shift to run the ship, so that everything goes as expected and nothing blows up.
That's 600 souls for three shifts, or 800 people for 4 shifts.
Although there would be more trouble is they needed 300 people to run the ship well, so that nothing blew up and fluttered out.
That's 900 people for three shifts, or 1,200 for four shifts.
But there's only a thousand people on board, and a third of them are Civilians and children who are unqualified to do almost anything vital.
On Jelico's Enterprise, hypothetically they might have had armed children running Security, fending off Cardassian Boarding parties.
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Doesn't matter about increasing manpower, he was making everyone work 18+ hour days anyway
> "if everybody works around the clock for the next two days"
I'll leave aside discussion about whether tiring your crew out before a battle is a good strategy or not.
> "if everybody works around the clock for the next two days"
I'll leave aside discussion about whether tiring your crew out before a battle is a good strategy or not.
You know what they say to "6 hours sleep" on Battlestar Galactica?
They say "It's time for meth baby! Meth. Meth, meth, I love Meth, I want some more Meth. Meth loves me and I love meth... Sleep is for losers."
There was a whole ship alone dedicated to the production of pharmaceutical antidepressants, because losing the home world is awful, but losing 12 home worlds is grim.
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@Guy Gardener
No, what I was saying is that there are 4 shifts in a 24 hour day, but is manned by the original 3 shifts, so they work 6 hours a day instead of 8, but instead of being back in 16 hours, there back in 12 hours.
Shift 1 - Crew A - 6am-12p
Shift 2 - Crew B - 12pm - 6pm
Shift 3 - Crew C - 6pm - 12am
Shift 1 - Crew A - 12am - 6am
Shift 2 - Crew B - 6am - 12pm
Etc. till emergency is over.
That makes more sense for Jellico being a hard ass then giving the crew only 6 hour work days in a 24 hour period.
No, what I was saying is that there are 4 shifts in a 24 hour day, but is manned by the original 3 shifts, so they work 6 hours a day instead of 8, but instead of being back in 16 hours, there back in 12 hours.
Shift 1 - Crew A - 6am-12p
Shift 2 - Crew B - 12pm - 6pm
Shift 3 - Crew C - 6pm - 12am
Shift 1 - Crew A - 12am - 6am
Shift 2 - Crew B - 6am - 12pm
Etc. till emergency is over.
That makes more sense for Jellico being a hard ass then giving the crew only 6 hour work days in a 24 hour period.
In the end, we don't know what the logistics are. In the long run, it seems to work, as seen on DS9. But on DS9, it was DONE RIGHT. They presumably started it during a period of routine operations, had all the section heads onboard, and made the change permanent when it seemed to be working well. Jellico did it with no preamble, no evaluation, over the protests of his section heads, and during a period when the ship already had to shift to a wartime footing. So, where a four-shift rotation might have been a positive change under normal circumstances, it was undoubtedly a problem here.
Is it conceivable that Picard stuck with the four-shift rotation? Yes. He stuck with Troi dressing like an officer, after all. But if I had to guess, I'd say probably not.
Is it conceivable that Picard stuck with the four-shift rotation? Yes. He stuck with Troi dressing like an officer, after all. But if I had to guess, I'd say probably not.
If Delta Shift had had to actually fight, it would most likely have been a massive comedy of errors, given that they would be fatigued from schedule changes, exhausted from overwork, and completely unused to working together. And the Enterprise could have been blown out of space as a result.
I'll Riker if I want to Riker.
If Delta Shift had had to actually fight, it would most likely have been a massive comedy of errors, given that they would be fatigued from schedule changes, exhausted from overwork, and completely unused to working together. And the Enterprise could have been blown out of space as a result.
I'll Riker if I want to Riker.
Or Delta shift is fresh as a daisy, because they only work 6 hours a day.