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Subspace beaming was eye rollingly silly. If they’ve got that in the 23rd century, why isn’t space travel almost exclusively that by PIC’s time in the 25th? Or for that matter in the 23rd.
Say you make up some bs about it being dangerous to humanoids, okay, why not beam most goods and cargo across scores or hundreds of light years? It’s a wand-waving bit of magic tech that you’re not supposed to think about for longer than the moment it’s used to to something kewl.
Say you make up some bs about it being dangerous to humanoids, okay, why not beam most goods and cargo across scores or hundreds of light years? It’s a wand-waving bit of magic tech that you’re not supposed to think about for longer than the moment it’s used to to something kewl.
From ST:ID?
Among the many ludicrous things in that film, yes.
Have you ever watched TNG's "Bloodlines"?
Right, so, Star Trek Into Darkness is the Kelvin Timeline. That would have no bearing on any of the television series.
Before someone says, "Spock Prime said in the 2009 Film that Scotty invented Subspace Beaming!" He could've invented it after "Relics" and then Starfleet decided not to pursue the technology, for whatever reason that no one cares about.
Before someone says, "Spock Prime said in the 2009 Film that Scotty invented Subspace Beaming!" He could've invented it after "Relics" and then Starfleet decided not to pursue the technology, for whatever reason that no one cares about.
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Isn't the idea of 'transwarp beaming' that it became possible to beam from a non-warp frame of reference (e.g. a planet) into a warp frame of reference (i.e. a ship at warp)?- or the other way around? I'd think that would have more to do with the stability and precision of beaming than with its range.
That said, of course a better stability and precision also could result in longer-range capabilities. Was it ever established just what exactly the limits of Domionion beaming technology were?
EDIT: I now see that the Star Trek 2009 script explicitly talks about range. Seems I was mistaken.
In "COVENANT", Worf stated Dominion transporters could have a range of up to 3 light years.
But that seemed to also require a homing signal like the one Fala gave Kira.
But that seemed to also require a homing signal like the one Fala gave Kira.
Imagine that. Assuming that transport over that range is still near-instantaneous, that would allow for stunningly quick transport of some persons over huge distances in some emergency cases. All you'd need to do is install a network with a density of 1 transporter system or more per 3 lightyears and chain them. It would take starships about a day at warp 9 to cover the distance of even a single such transport.
Even Janeway & Crew could have returned to the AQ in about 100 hours of beaming (assuming 15 seconds per transport), had such a network been available accross the galaxy. (Granted, probably not the most pleasant 100 hours, but still).
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Sounds like the subspace transporter Bok was using in TNG: "Bloodlines". We might assume that the Dominion don't use it that often because it has the same requirement for the transportee to be in an unstable state of quantum flux too, which would explain why the Dominion have only been seen to use it on Vorta who could be easily replaced if something goes wrong. They certainly wouldn't want even the minimal risk of losing one of their precious Founders.
But it's an interesting idea to suppose that these transporters are not so fast as to be able to cover multi-lightyear distances almost instantaneously. Maybe they go the equivalent of warp 9.999 for example, but even at that speed a three lightyear trip would still take about 50 minutes. Maybe this is why they're so dangerous – there's a lot that can go wrong with a 50-minute transport cycle, plenty of opportunity for it to be interrupted, corrupted, or intercepted. And what of the transportee? Are they aware of the passage of time during the transport? If so, and biological processes are still happening, would they need air? For a very long transport cycle could they take food and water?
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Sure, you just have re-route power through the main Fetzer Valve, then adjust the Johnson Rod to compensate.
Never hurts to work a Seinfeld reference into a Trek discussion!
Lol
Not that there's anything right with SHADES OF GREY.
So the Federation will not allow Illyrians to join because of the Illyrian's tradition of genetic manipulation? OK, that's fine. Perhaps the Illyrians will find a more welcoming union to join like the Klingons or Romulans.
Seriously, the Federation cannot see this discrimination only strengthens those governments without such a ban?
Seriously, the Federation cannot see this discrimination only strengthens those governments without such a ban?
"Shades of Grey" is fun, just don't overthink it.
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