Difficult to see how you would feel that way. The Romulans are featured in multiple episodes, multiple series, and one of the TNG movies.
We learn a lot about them.
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We learn a lot about them.
Idk I feel they're pretty underdeveloped in terms of an extensive look at their culture until Picard
I'm glad that thanks to Picard, Romulans have more than one hairstyle.
Someone's going to point out "The Enterprise Incident" from TOS. Yes, but then that's the last we saw from them in live-action until TNG. Then it was almost nothing but helmet hair.
Someone's going to point out "The Enterprise Incident" from TOS. Yes, but then that's the last we saw from them in live-action until TNG. Then it was almost nothing but helmet hair.
I was 5.
I played with Mego figures and made up my own stories.
"Better" does not mean everyone has read it.
Or by one of those baseball leagues. Take Me Out to the Holosuite could be a Very Special Episode.
(I assume there is no Self Sealing Stembolt Society yet?)
I wish Trek showed this more. The Romulans and Klingons are lords over many slave races, they boast about conquests, yet we never really see it. There's a reason why the Federation has terse relations with both, it's not just that they're prone to shooting - it's prone to shooting to become overlords.
Ikr. It seems only Romulans and Klingons actually inhabit their own empires
Whereas we actually saw the effects of Cardassian Occupation and Dominion War. In many ways the Cardassians and Changelings are far more effective imperial foes
We HEARD about Klingon occupation in Errand of Mercy. But that was all OK because the light-bulbs weren't really helpless farmers. And really what is all of this fighting all about anyway? YES, Kor TRIED to summarily execute two hundred Organians (for a start). But he didn't really. And I'm sure that sort of thing never happened on any other Klingon occupied worlds. I'm sure Kor was just excited about his first governorship. Beginner's mistake.
Gul Dukat is Star Trek's greatest monster but Kor is just a mischievous scamp. Fun, huh?
Gul Dukat is Star Trek's greatest monster but Kor is just a mischievous scamp. Fun, huh?
And Kor becomes an ally eventually.
Isn't that so sweet.
Isn't that so sweet.
Who wants Bloodwine?!
Exactly. The Klingons were allies for a large portion of ST history and the Romulans only appear every now and then with no significant recurring characters until PIC.
Meanwhile we have several memorable recurring Cardassian and changeling characters, both good and bad. Even the Borg had a huge effect.
Meanwhile we have several memorable recurring Cardassian and changeling characters, both good and bad. Even the Borg had a huge effect.
I really don't like, disagree with the idea (half-joke or not) that Troi was brainless and/or worthless until the last two seasons of TNG, she was fine and contributing pretty well throughout. In fact it is interesting that in Season 1 she does come off as pretty alien, though that was sometimes taken to excesses, then after that was pretty gradually but consistently toned down to being gone by Season 5 (which was different but also fine, not worse).
The show, while sympathizing with Odo, doesn't really condemn Sisko and the admirals/overall Federation for implicitly condoning it.
The show, while sympathizing with Odo, doesn't really condemn Sisko and the admirals/overall Federation for implicitly condoning it.
Idk, maybe I need to go back but I never found Troi, or Betazoids, interesting. She always seemed needlessly sexualized
As for DS9 it veers a bit too much into ends justify the means. Ironic since it predated 9/11
Which is the strength of the show that it let's the audience decide.
And with DS9 the character is often dead wrong in what they did but also justified. Ambiguity was one of DS9's specialties and it did it better than any Trek before or since.
I always wondered what it would mean to be allies with the Klingons for the Federation, and how the Romulans and other powers would use that in a galactic sense to tar the Federation?
Unless we're gonna go with the idea that the Klingons went through a reformation after the Khitomer Accords, they're still officially known as the Klingon Empire, and presumably still have formal occupations of multiple planets within their sphere of influence that they may or may not treat in the same manner as we saw Kor deal with a local population in "Errand of Mercy."
I don't want to bring current world events into this, but over at least the past century, the United States has had to deal with repercussions for being allies with different countries who may or may not have "occupation" forces, and that's been a HUGE issue when dealing with the politics in certain regions.
So when the Klingons act like Klingons among the planets within their Empire, and the people on a subjugated planet pleads for help and justice, does the Federation throw up their hands and say: "well, that doesn't concern us, that's a Klingon planet." If so, I could better understand Major Kira's reaction to Federation administration of Deep Space Nine when we first meet her in "Emissary," since the alliance with the Klingons would be used, rightly or wrongly, by their adversaries to make the Federation look like hypocrites.
Unless we're gonna go with the idea that the Klingons went through a reformation after the Khitomer Accords, they're still officially known as the Klingon Empire, and presumably still have formal occupations of multiple planets within their sphere of influence that they may or may not treat in the same manner as we saw Kor deal with a local population in "Errand of Mercy."
I don't want to bring current world events into this, but over at least the past century, the United States has had to deal with repercussions for being allies with different countries who may or may not have "occupation" forces, and that's been a HUGE issue when dealing with the politics in certain regions.
So when the Klingons act like Klingons among the planets within their Empire, and the people on a subjugated planet pleads for help and justice, does the Federation throw up their hands and say: "well, that doesn't concern us, that's a Klingon planet." If so, I could better understand Major Kira's reaction to Federation administration of Deep Space Nine when we first meet her in "Emissary," since the alliance with the Klingons would be used, rightly or wrongly, by their adversaries to make the Federation look like hypocrites.
I think that was actually the intent that the Klingons changed their ways after Khitomer.
That's why in DS9 the characters make a big deal about the Empire 'returning to their old ways'.
It's why TUC lands so poorly at times. Kirk is demanded to change and yet the Klingons are expected to just be accepted as they were.
Interesting juxtaposition.
I mean, it was touched on "Heart of Glory."
Yeah the Klingons complaining about the Federation being homo sapiens only is highly hypocritical
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