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What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?
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I always say that when that "Benny Russel" ending comes up... But it's honestly the most navel-gazing, self-indulgent crap I've ever heard, and I'm glad they nixed that idea.
It's not nearly as clever or original as Mr.Behr seemed to think it would have been, and the only people who would have had the right to change the franchise would have been the original creators, imo.
It's basically nothing more than the last episode of a sitcom zooming out to show the set is a sounds tage and showing the actor's break character and interact with the audience
It's not nearly as clever or original as Mr.Behr seemed to think it would have been, and the only people who would have had the right to change the franchise would have been the original creators, imo.
It's basically nothing more than the last episode of a sitcom zooming out to show the set is a sounds tage and showing the actor's break character and interact with the audience
If they hadn't been walking in the footsteps of St. Elsewhere, Newhart, etc. I might give it the time of day. And still say no.
As it is, it's just a nice production anecdote.
Well that is why its in controversial opinions. I don't expect everyone to agree.
I dislike most holodeck episodes as well.
EWWWWWWWW
Reading that I now want to pour bleach into my eyes! Ira Behr needs locking in a padded cell just for suggesting that!
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"Far Beyond the Stars" is the best DS9 episode, hands down. But, of course, it doesn't stand alone. The cast and character references depend upon one having seen prior episodes, and getting all the Easter eggs requires knowledge of TOS. Still, a brilliant episode, that may (or may not) have been inspired by real-word events [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EC_Comics#.22Judgment_Day.22]. Given the pushback against Sisko from some quarters, "Far Beyond the Stars" sadly also works as a self-referential commentary on itself.
Controversial Opinion:
I care pretty much 0% that PRO was cancelled and don’t care if no more is made or if the second season never sees the light of day.
I care pretty much 0% that PRO was cancelled and don’t care if no more is made or if the second season never sees the light of day.
Indeed.
If more gets made, more power to it.
But, I'm not going to be upset at all. But, then, I have this weird relationship with Star Trek that while I enjoy that it gets made it is not a requirement in my life.
Yeah, they weren't villains. Sisko had every right to feel angry at Cal Hudson for resigning Starfleet to join the Maquis but Cal wasn't fighting for a malevolent cause. Just because a treaty between two powers exists and territory is ceded to the other doesn't make either of them right.
In the beginning, invisible factions from both empires were handing over military grade weapons to Farmers, and watching the Farmers kill each other.
Someone was deffinately being a dick.
Trek is better off in syndication. Be it network, cable, or streaming syndication, its what made Trekkies as huge a fandom as we are. It makes Trek more accessible to general audiences. If you have to subscribe to a new streaming service just to watch Trek, you're not going to gain as many new fans.
I mean, it's no different than UPN.
Paramount/Viacom/CBS are going to try and compete with their competitors in the business.
Paramount/Viacom/CBS are going to try and compete with their competitors in the business.
I only disagree because it would really suck for all the people who worked on Season 2 to have all their hard work and effort squandered for the sake of greed. But if Season 2 hadn't already been made, I'd completely agree.
This.
They need to grow a new fanbase so if old fans leave, it's not going to hurt them. SNW and PIC Season 3 have to attract old fans because they need to get those fans back to make the numbers work, due to the situation they're in on Paramount+. If the new Star Trek shows were somewhere that more people would watch them, this wouldn't be a problem. Either a larger streaming service or a niche cable channel like SyFy or Comet or whatever. Definitely not CBS, as in regular CBS. The average viewing age is 60+. And the new Trek shows shouldn't be made to appeal to Boomers who most likely wouldn't like them anyway.
TNG gained more than enough new fans to make up for the TOS Fans it lost. This hasn't been the case for any series made since. On the movie side, the Kelvin Films also gained enough audience members to last three films and offset any fans it would've lost. Not that I think those they lost many fans at all. Even fans who were actively against the films went to go see them anyway.
Moral of the Story: If you can be replaced as an audience, you have no power. If you can't be replaced, you do.
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The only problem is that the Syndicated TV market is mostly dead. After the 2000s, it started to experience a steady decline, and the rise of streaming didn't help. I think Trek should be on more streaming services than be tied to one platform.
And I disagree with that.
And it has nothing to do with the race angle. I do think media about racism is important, and I do believe that we should have media pointing at the particular struggles faced by members of minorities and minority creators then and now.
And Sisko is probably my favourite series lead (as in THE main character of their show), even before Picard.
It's just that when I turn on DS9, I want a story set in the future that has to do with DS9. I do not want some story about a bunch of people from 1950s America who are just played by the same actors. No thanks.
Valid point, and I can see it.
Though, I will say, I'm looking forward to re-watching "Past Tense" on August 30th, 2024. Just to see what they got right, what they got wrong, and poke fun at whatever was way, way off. I did the same thing on October 21st, 2015 with Back to the Future, Part II.
The men's fashions and desktop CRT computers with bulky monitor shells are already chuckleworthy but those episodes were spot-on about the Internet, it's global reach and how online sites constantly offer products and discounts in addition to information.
I'm sorry you feel that way. I love PRO and think it's fresh and fun. My fondest hope right now is that it gets picked up by Netflix (or someone else with a bigger audience then P+) and ends up running for at least a 3rd season and brings in new, young fans.
To be clear, the race angle is not why I think it's the best DS9 episode. That said, doing an episode about racism that's superior to TOS's effort of "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield" in virtually every way imaginable helps make it the best, and helps a lot.
OK. That's not what it is. Actually, it's about a vision that Sisko has delivered to him by the Prophets, an experience that begins and ends in the 24th century, but, OK, this is the controversial opinion thread.
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