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To be fair, "THE ANDORIAN INCIDENT" was probably the very first step toward creating the Federation.

Archer was trying to help their allies, the Vulcans, who were under guard and attacked.

In the process, though, they found the secret surveillance station and it actually put Shran in debt to Archer.

Yes, it did get the monastery destroyed, but it did open up a pathway for humans to be the mediators in the conflict between them.

Plus, that was just a dirty trick... using a monastery for spying. I am definitely not religious by any stretch of the word, but even I know that isn't right. I don't care about sacred or holy grounds, but others do, and you just don't go around using them for such things. Nor do you tear them apart.
 
I have a theory that some fans especially in the West, and especially fans from the USA were uncomfortable with the human race being low in the pecking order of galactic politics and being under the patronising guidance of the Vulcans. In TOS, DS9, VOY etc humans (read USA) are the top dogs of the UFP. Its a humancentric empire, in the 23rd and 24th century.
I'm sure there probably were some fans who felt that way. But the show was basically about the coming of humanity into its place on equal footing with the other species who'd had warp drive longer. With the signing of the coalition charter on Earth, ENT fulfills that Western prejudice, as it were.
 
To be fair, "THE ANDORIAN INCIDENT" was probably the very first step toward creating the Federation.

Archer was trying to help their allies, the Vulcans, who were under guard and attacked.

In the process, though, they found the secret surveillance station and it actually put Shran in debt to Archer.

Yes, it did get the monastery destroyed, but it did open up a pathway for humans to be the mediators in the conflict between them.

Plus, that was just a dirty trick... using a monastery for spying. I am definitely not religious by any stretch of the word, but even I know that isn't right. I don't care about sacred or holy grounds, but others do, and you just don't go around using them for such things. Nor do you tear them apart.
I see that but to me that shows an extreme lack of forethought. Yes, the Vulcans were wrong but Archer makes a unilateral decision that impacts three governments. That's a step too far in my opinion.
 
One could also make an argument that "THE ANDORIAN INCIDENT" could have been one of the reasons for the creation of the Prime Directive later.

Both sides of the argument definitely have merit.
 
I have a theory that some fans especially in the West, and especially fans from the USA were uncomfortable with the human race being low in the pecking order of galactic politics and being under the patronising guidance of the Vulcans. In TOS, DS9, VOY etc humans (read USA) are the top dogs of the UFP. Its a humancentric empire, in the 23rd and 24th century.
Yup.

I'm certainly open to a story where Earth is the new kid on a busy and crowded block. But that story up to that point (or First Contact anyway) wasn't Star Trek.

I'm still trying to figure out what Zefram Cochrane did to get planets named after him. Or why Starfleet Academy's engineering program makes a big deal about him. Since every T'om, Diiich, and HaRee already had "discovered" the space warp.
 
Yup.

I'm certainly open to a story where Earth is the new kid on a busy and crowded block. But that story up to that point (or First Contact anyway) wasn't Star Trek.

I'm still trying to figure out what Zefram Cochrane did to get planets named after him. Or why Starfleet Academy's engineering program makes a big deal about him. Since every T'om, Diiich, and HaRee already had "discovered" the space warp.
Better publicist.
 
Cochrane also broke the warp barrier just 10 years after Earth's nuclear war. Soval in "The Forge" tells Admiral Forrest that it took Vulcan many centuries after its own great global war ended to go out into deep space while humans did so and were already a significant player in the politics of the Alpha Quadrant within just a century of its last World War. Humans and Earth clearly broke the warp barrier in a way that was dramatically different enough from other species that it led to Zefram Cochrane's name being given to cities and whole planets.
 
Cochrane also broke the warp barrier just 10 years after Earth's nuclear war. Soval in "The Forge" tells Admiral Forrest that it took Vulcan many centuries after its own great global war ended to go out into deep space while humans did so and were already a significant player in the politics of the Alpha Quadrant within just a century of its last World War. Humans and Earth clearly broke the warp barrier in a way that was dramatically different enough from other species that it led to Zefram Cochrane's name being given to cities and whole planets.

The Ferengi bought warp technology from someone else. The Klingons took warp technology from the wrecks of Hur'q invasion ships. Humanity developed it quickly and without assistance from the stars. That's humanity's advantage in Star Trek: making up for technological deficits by being quick learners.
 
The Ferengi bought warp technology from someone else. The Klingons took warp technology from the wrecks of Hur'q invasion ships. Humanity developed it quickly and without assistance from the stars. That's humanity's advantage in Star Trek: making up for technological deficits by being quick learners.
Is that... (shudder) canon? I'm not being dismissive, I just wondered if that actually made it into a show?
 
I’ve never heard the Klingon one. But I’m pretty sure Quark or Rom mention the Ferengi one in “Little Green Men”

NOG: But think about it, uncle. That means they went from being savages with a simple barter system to leaders of a vast interstellar Federation in only five thousand years It took us twice as long to establish the Ferengi Alliance, and we had to buy warp technology from the–
QUARK: Five thousand, ten thousand, what's the difference? The speed of technological advancement isn't nearly as important as short-term quarterly gains. Can't this thing go any faster?

As for the Klingons, it looks like that is not canon. It's stated in Star Trek: Klingon Academy that they reverse-engineered warp technology from Hur'q vessels, but that's not on-screen. My bad.
 
As for the Klingons, it looks like that is not canon. It's stated in Star Trek: Klingon Academy that they reverse-engineered warp technology from Hur'q vessels, but that's not on-screen. My bad.

Follow-up, I found the quote from the Klingon Academy game. It's not on-screen canon, but ya know...

The Klingon Empire was founded more than 1,600 years ago by Kahless the Unforgettable. For 750 years Kahless and his successors strove to bring all the lands of Qo'noS under control to unify the people under one Emperor. It was then that the Hur'q invaded from space and ravaged the planet, leaving our world beaten and stealing objects of our cultural heritage; namely the Sword of Kahless. The people of Qo’noS united under the banner of the Klingon Empire to drive the Hur'q from the planet, and then set their eyes to the stars. With advances In technology gleaned from the Hur'q occupation the Klingon people began to explore and conquer their neighboring star systems.
 
I like Encounter at Farpoint a lot, actually. I think the Berman-era writers got much better at writing and executing pilots as they went along, so it’s only “worse” in that it went first in the new era, and therefore didn’t have the benefit of learning lessons from others.

Here’s my take on the “Pilots” in Star Trek (and this has NOTHING to do with my feelings on the series themselves):

Emissary
Where No Man Has Gone Before
The Cage
Caretaker
Encounter at Farpoint
Strange New Worlds
Broken Bow
Vulcan Hello/Binary Stars
Lost and Found
Second Contact

I can’t really rank PIC’s “pilot” because it was basically a continuous 3-part first act. I guess if I had to rank “Remembrance” as a single episode, it would be somewhere below “SNW” and above “Lost and Found.” But, that entire 3-part act was really quite good.
My rankings:

"The Cage"
--> Honestly my favorite pilot for Star Trek. They packed so much into this.
"Where No Man Has Gone Before" --> Straight-forward and compelling.

"Remembrance" --> EDITED TO ADD THIS ONE IN. How could I forget this?! Actually, I know why: my mind thinks of Picard in general as TNG Season 8 instead of its own thing (gee, I wonder why?), but I love how Picard was able to make lemonade out of the lemons it was given (Data's death), how it dealt with the curveballs thrown at it (like Romulus' destruction), and figuring out to how use everything to get it so Picard ends up in the Vineyard like in the future scenes during "All Good Things". Part of me thinks I should put this at the very top, but because it didn't come immediately to mind, that's telling me something, so I won't. But it's up there.

"Caretaker" --> It seriously made Voyager look like it would be a much better series than it actually ended up being.

"Emissary" --> The Sisko scenes are the best. Everything else is good but not great. Some of it hits too close to home. My mother died when I was 18, so what Sisko went through reminds me too much of what my father went through. Even though it was cancer my mother died from, not some space battle. The grief is all the same.

"Strange New Worlds"
--> Good intro to SNW and great use of the aftermath from DSC Season 2.

"The Vulcan Hello" / "Battle at the Binary Stars" --> Would've been higher if Burnham didn't make some really bone-headed decisions. The visuals and the characterizations make up for it, but wow. "Context Is for Kings" was what really got me hooked into Discovery.

"Lost and Found" --> The first episode of Prodigy did its job and got me interested in the characters. It's good for what it is, but this is the type of series where I got more into as it went along.

"Encounter at Farpoint" --> Parts of it are good, parts of it are a drag. I like Picard better as a hard-ass.

"Broken Bow" --> I didn't connect with the crew, I still don't get why T'Pol wanted to stay, the decon scenes were patronizing (I didn't even like it when I was 22, and I was their target audience!)... and if Earth was so close to Klingon Space: why didn't the Klingons conquer Earth a long time ago?!

"Second Contact" --> To be brutally honest, I don't remember anything about this episode. Thus the reason why I place it at the bottom. I'm not saying it's good, I'm not saying it's bad. But nothing stands out to me.
 
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I sometimes wonder if "Vulcan Hello/Binary Stars" is a bit clunky because it most scenes were originally to be utilized in flashbacks, with the show presumably beginning with Burham on the prison shuttle.
 
Ranking the pilots is tough, they are all so different. Especially when it comes to Lower Decks only being 30 minutes. Or how The Cage/WNMHGB/Second Contact are just one part stand alone episodes.

My best attempt off the top of my head….

Where No Man Has Gone Before
The Cage
The Emissary
Strange New Worlds
Encounter at Farpoint
Broken Bow
Second Contact
Caretaker
Lost and Found
The Vulcan Hello/Binary Stars
Remembrance
 
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